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Guys from the US saying you can't win a decision in the UK
Guys from the UK saying you can't win a decision in the US
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Originally posted by Redgloveman View PostDude, that’s pretty naive. I’m not one of those claiming that it’s a grand robbery conspiracy, but you should know that that isn’t how these things work.
40% of people thought the fight was a draw or Wilder should have won. If Wilder actually did get special home cooking like people think , he would have won the fight not needed a KD in the 12th to get a draw . This isn’t Canelo/Golovkin 1 where everyone (90%) agree who won but because of suspect judging it was a draw. It’s almost down the middle as far as people who had Fury winning and those who had it a draw or for Wilder.
If Wilder was British and the fight was in the UK you think It would have been a draw. I doubt it , Wilder would have won either by stoppage in the 12th or getting it on the cards. Look at the Fury /Klit fight I had it almost a shutout, Yet 2 of the judges gave Klit 4 rounds and Fury had a point taken away that’s home cooking. This fight wasn’t that.
Fury let the W slip away and it has nothing to do with it being held in the States or the judges or whoever else he wants to blame.
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Originally posted by champion4ever View PostIn what way? Tyson Fury don't hold no leverage over Wilder and Joshua at the bargaining table because one he is a boring defensive fighter and he's coming to the table empty handed. He has no title belts, that anybody wants, he doesn't sell tickets, he is not a box office draw among casual fans and doesn't sell pay per views.
I am sorry but ESPN is not the only game in town. Both Joshua and Wilder have platforms of their own too; So they don't have to fight on ESPN and play B side or second fiddle to Fury if they don't want to because he has nothing they want.
If anything Fury is going to have to compromise and settle in order to meet these fellas half way because there is no B side when it comes to Tyson Fury. He is not a price maker. He is a price taker.
In addition of all the networks/online streaming services platforms combined; ESPN has the lowest budget of them all and DAZN has the largest.
So now tell me what make you think either Wilder or Joshua would be willing to fight Fury on ESPN when they could earn up to five times the amount of money just fighting on DAZN alone?
Until Tyson Fury wins a title belt, then the other two champions don't need him.
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Very close fight but 10 rounds is a stretch. He has suprerior ring generalship but let's not pretend like he was landing massive blows
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Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View PostESPN isn't his promoter though. Top Rank is. And we see fighters getting favorable treatment because their promoter picks/pays the judges.
If Fury is with Top Rank based on the ability to ensure he has judges who favor his style, that says a lot. It says that he believes he can't beat Joshua or Wilder without trying to dance and pot-shot his way to victory.
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Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View PostI was being sarcastic. Fury is a feel good story but will be a hard sell to the American boxing public. He's not the lovable underdog versus Rivas, Parker, or Pulev. Further, there was a reason Arum came out and spoke to the contract. He doesn't want future fighters or current fighters under his banner to think that getting that much money is a given without several caveats.I feel ya Bro! You had me going there for a while.
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