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  • #51
    Originally posted by Redgloveman View Post
    I’d love to agree with you, but I’m not so sure. I’ve seen enough robberies in my time.

    Hand on heart I think Wilder saved his own credibility with that 12th round KD because I think the draw would have been announced in any event
    10-8 round in the 12 swayed a scorecard to a draw. Even if Wilder wins the 12th on all cards 10-9, Fury wins a majority decision.

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    • #52
      Guys from the US saying you can't win a decision in the UK

      Guys from the UK saying you can't win a decision in the US

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Redgloveman View Post
        Dude, that’s pretty naive. I’m not one of those claiming that it’s a grand robbery conspiracy, but you should know that that isn’t how these things work.
        You realize Fury was up on the card by 2 points going into the 12th by the judge who scored it a draw. He could have just lost the round and Fury still would have won all he had to do was not hit the canvas. Well he did and it ended up costing him the W.

        40% of people thought the fight was a draw or Wilder should have won. If Wilder actually did get special home cooking like people think , he would have won the fight not needed a KD in the 12th to get a draw . This isn’t Canelo/Golovkin 1 where everyone (90%) agree who won but because of suspect judging it was a draw. It’s almost down the middle as far as people who had Fury winning and those who had it a draw or for Wilder.

        If Wilder was British and the fight was in the UK you think It would have been a draw. I doubt it , Wilder would have won either by stoppage in the 12th or getting it on the cards. Look at the Fury /Klit fight I had it almost a shutout, Yet 2 of the judges gave Klit 4 rounds and Fury had a point taken away that’s home cooking. This fight wasn’t that.

        Fury let the W slip away and it has nothing to do with it being held in the States or the judges or whoever else he wants to blame.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
          In what way? Tyson Fury don't hold no leverage over Wilder and Joshua at the bargaining table because one he is a boring defensive fighter and he's coming to the table empty handed. He has no title belts, that anybody wants, he doesn't sell tickets, he is not a box office draw among casual fans and doesn't sell pay per views.

          I am sorry but ESPN is not the only game in town. Both Joshua and Wilder have platforms of their own too; So they don't have to fight on ESPN and play B side or second fiddle to Fury if they don't want to because he has nothing they want.

          If anything Fury is going to have to compromise and settle in order to meet these fellas half way because there is no B side when it comes to Tyson Fury. He is not a price maker. He is a price taker.

          In addition of all the networks/online streaming services platforms combined; ESPN has the lowest budget of them all and DAZN has the largest.

          So now tell me what make you think either Wilder or Joshua would be willing to fight Fury on ESPN when they could earn up to five times the amount of money just fighting on DAZN alone?

          Until Tyson Fury wins a title belt, then the other two champions don't need him.
          I was being sarcastic. Fury is a feel good story but will be a hard sell to the American boxing public. He's not the lovable underdog versus Rivas, Parker, or Pulev. Further, there was a reason Arum came out and spoke to the contract. He doesn't want future fighters or current fighters under his banner to think that getting that much money is a given without several caveats.

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          • #55
            Very close fight but 10 rounds is a stretch. He has suprerior ring generalship but let's not pretend like he was landing massive blows

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            • #56
              Originally posted by todisday View Post
              I thought Wilder outworked Fury most rounds, by slight margins. And Wilder knocked him out, on top of that.

              Stop ducking, Fury!
              It's comical to me how someone can get up from a KO and dominate the remainder of the round, as Fury did!

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              • #57
                Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats View Post
                Can’t make someone look like a novice landing 24% of your punches the fight was close rounds was close
                "The rounds was close" LOL

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
                  ESPN isn't his promoter though. Top Rank is. And we see fighters getting favorable treatment because their promoter picks/pays the judges.

                  If Fury is with Top Rank based on the ability to ensure he has judges who favor his style, that says a lot. It says that he believes he can't beat Joshua or Wilder without trying to dance and pot-shot his way to victory.
                  Yeah maybe he does think that after the first wilder match. Well that’s exactly what he thinks he straight up said it. I agree that’s the only way he wins because wilder has shown he can knock at fury (many refs would’ve waved that off I’m not afraid to admit that) and I’m confident aj will have him in trouble at least once and he’s shown he’s an excellent finisher in the past. Fury isn’t knocking either of them out and he damn sure isn’t getting into a firefight with either one

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
                    I was being sarcastic. Fury is a feel good story but will be a hard sell to the American boxing public. He's not the lovable underdog versus Rivas, Parker, or Pulev. Further, there was a reason Arum came out and spoke to the contract. He doesn't want future fighters or current fighters under his banner to think that getting that much money is a given without several caveats.
                    I feel ya Bro! You had me going there for a while.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by todisday View Post
                      I thought Wilder outworked Fury most rounds, by slight margins. And Wilder knocked him out, on top of that.

                      Stop ducking, Fury!
                      my advice to you is DON'T THINK

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