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  • Ray*
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    #121
    Originally posted by Iamsmoke89
    Lol ur right just like fury definitely didn’t beat wilder
    Yeah I think that’s why it’s called a “Draw” lol.

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    • Redgloveman
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      #122
      Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
      The Wilder fans seemingly just want to see the rematch, it's you and the other Fury fans that seem to continue to cry about robbery at every opportunity.
      The Wilder fans just want to support Wilder.

      When Wilder was chasing AJ the Wilder fans were constantly saying “we just want to see the fight!” Now that AJ seems more intent on the fight than Wilder they’ve all gone quiet on that argument and prefer to talk about “Joshua’s begging” and “Joshua’s being frozen out” and now it’s “we just want to see the rematch”.

      True boxing fans want to see the big fights. There are some kicking around on these forums but it’s by no means an overwhelming number

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      • Redgloveman
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        #123
        Originally posted by Redgloveman
        The Wilder fans just want to support Wilder.

        When Wilder was chasing AJ the Wilder fans were constantly saying “we just want to see the fight!” Now that AJ seems more intent on the fight than Wilder they’ve all gone quiet on that argument and prefer to talk about “Joshua’s begging” and “Joshua’s being frozen out” and now it’s “we just want to see the rematch”.

        True boxing fans want to see the big fights. There are some kicking around on these forums but it’s by no means an overwhelming number
        ANd before anyone gets on my case, the AJ fans are just as bad

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          #124
          Originally posted by Redgloveman
          The Wilder fans just want to support Wilder.

          When Wilder was chasing AJ the Wilder fans were constantly saying “we just want to see the fight!” Now that AJ seems more intent on the fight than Wilder they’ve all gone quiet on that argument and prefer to talk about “Joshua’s begging” and “Joshua’s being frozen out” and now it’s “we just want to see the rematch”.

          True boxing fans want to see the big fights. There are some kicking around on these forums but it’s by no means an overwhelming number
          Originally posted by Redgloveman
          ANd before anyone gets on my case, the AJ fans are just as bad

          Couldn't have said it any better.

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            #125
            Lolx..... Boxing is amazing to be honest. All the Wilderites boys praising fury some weeks ago calling him the UK guy with the lion heart, the lineal champ, the giant chpion slayer, the golden star. All of a sudden the same fury is their worst nightmare.
            LMAO
            am having fun right now. Fury poke a finger into their eyes.

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            • Redgloveman
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              #126
              Originally posted by R_Walken
              You realize Fury was up on the card by 2 points going into the 12th by the judge who scored it a draw. He could have just lost the round and Fury still would have won all he had to do was not hit the canvas. Well he did and it ended up costing him the W.

              40% of people thought the fight was a draw or Wilder should have won. If Wilder actually did get special home cooking like people think , he would have won the fight not needed a KD in the 12th to get a draw . This isn’t Canelo/Golovkin 1 where everyone (90%) agree who won but because of suspect judging it was a draw. It’s almost down the middle as far as people who had Fury winning and those who had it a draw or for Wilder.

              If Wilder was British and the fight was in the UK you think It would have been a draw. I doubt it , Wilder would have won either by stoppage in the 12th or getting it on the cards. Look at the Fury /Klit fight I had it almost a shutout, Yet 2 of the judges gave Klit 4 rounds and Fury had a point taken away that’s home cooking. This fight wasn’t that.

              Fury let the W slip away and it has nothing to do with it being held in the States or the judges or whoever else he wants to blame.
              Where Champions are fighting at home it’s pretty common that robberies are draws, because the public wouldn’t countenance a home win, but “oh look at that” the titles stay at home.

              Ricky Burns v Raymundo Beltran is a classic example

              Or Holyfield v Lewis

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                #127
                Tyson Fury could use a new boxing coach and chief second in his corner. Ben Davidson is not the right guy for him.

                That style of his is not going to win him any new fans or fights. It's too defensive.

                People don't pay and watch heavyweights to move and not throw punches. They pay to watch them hit and score knockouts.

                That's what Freddie Roach was trying to get Tyson Fury to do against Deontay Wilder. Yet he was overruled by both Fury and Davidson.

                The bottom line is had Fury done just a little bit more he would have easily won that fight and became the new WBC heavyweight champion of the world..

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                • Ake-Dawg
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Redgloveman
                  The Wilder fans just want to support Wilder.

                  When Wilder was chasing AJ the Wilder fans were constantly saying “we just want to see the fight!” Now that AJ seems more intent on the fight than Wilder they’ve all gone quiet on that argument and prefer to talk about “Joshua’s begging” and “Joshua’s being frozen out” and now it’s “we just want to see the rematch”.

                  True boxing fans want to see the big fights. There are some kicking around on these forums but it’s by no means an overwhelming number
                  I agree with you in large part. However in the context of Fury Wilder, I believe my statement to be accurate. I recognize that there are some extreme opinions on either side, but I choose to speak to the aggregate opinion rather than the extreme.

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                    #129
                    I still remember when the referee let Hatton bear hug and maul Kostya Tszyu into a victory.

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                    • Ake-Dawg
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Redgloveman
                      Where Champions are fighting at home it’s pretty common that robberies are draws, because the public wouldn’t countenance a home win, but “oh look at that” the titles stay at home.

                      Ricky Burns v Raymundo Beltran is a classic example

                      Or Holyfield v Lewis
                      The above is true. However it does not speak to the specific situation between Fury and Wilder in which Fury was up on two cards heading into the 12th and could have lost the round 10-9 and walked away with the belt. Getting knocked down in the 12th round is what ultinately cost him the opportunity to win the fight in spite of what many call biased judges.

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