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Originally posted by jmrf4435 View Postit doesn't matter what you told yourself.
you would have been given the victory by the judges, also the first KD was trash as Fury was off balance, last KD was fatigue.
It was a domination from Fury
I think Fury was outboxing Wilder over the last 6 but that's also when Wilder had the two KDs so that evened out those 6. Fury seemed uncomfortable in the first 6 and then loosened up, a little too much at times, in the last 6. It was a good exciting tense fight though.
And my point regarding Fury's comments was that a winner's mentality would say 'I should have done better there; if I had not gotten dropped twice I would have had a pretty clear victory.' A loser's mentality tends to blame everything else around them.
It's fine to be objective at times and point out obvious things - if a ref made a bad call, if your opponent cheated, etc. But a winner will look at himself in the mirror after a close fight/fight (game) like that and say 'Man, I should have done better. This is on me.' For the record I don't put much stock into what Fury says because he is a showman and is excellent at it, so in saying comments like this, he gets attention and people talking, and that's exactly what he wants.
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Originally posted by Boxing1013 View PostMan I watched the fight. Don't see how anyone could see a dominant performance from Fury in the first six rounds. In those first six he would basically land 7 pitty pat punches to 5 decent shots from Wilder. Then Fury would also do a lot of preening and posturing, I don't give credit for that.
I think Fury was outboxing Wilder over the last 6 but that's also when Wilder had the two KDs so that evened out those 6. Fury seemed uncomfortable in the first 6 and then loosened up, a little too much at times, in the last 6. It was a good exciting tense fight though.
And my point regarding Fury's comments was that a winner's mentality would say 'I should have done better there; if I had not gotten dropped twice I would have had a pretty clear victory.' A loser's mentality tends to blame everything else around them.
It's fine to be objective at times and point out obvious things - if a ref made a bad call, if your opponent cheated, etc. But a winner will look at himself in the mirror after a close fight/fight (game) like that and say 'Man, I should have done better. This is on me.' For the record I don't put much stock into what Fury says because he is a showman and is excellent at it, so in saying comments like this, he gets attention and people talking, and that's exactly what he wants.
Tow knockdowns are at best two 10-8 rounds, I gave him a 10-9 round because Fury won back a round clearly, and you lose all credibility arguing that a draw is feasible. It isn't. Wilder was not just outboxed, he was schooled. If you can't argue he didn't without leaning on (flawed) compubox, then you DKSAB.
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Originally posted by LoadedWraps View PostA winners mentality is desiring to improve but Fury knows how boxing is scored and he knows he was robbed.
Tow knockdowns are at best two 10-8 rounds, I gave him a 10-9 round because Fury won back a round clearly, and you lose all credibility arguing that a draw is feasible. It isn't. Wilder was not just outboxed, he was schooled. If you can't argue he didn't without leaning on (flawed) compubox, then you DKSAB.
And to be honest Fury is not really a great boxer as much as a big awkward guy who knows how to box, and against whom it is hard to look good against. There was hardly any action at all in the first 6 rounds and Wilder was always landing the bigger punches. A 7-5 punch advantage round to Fury does not a clinic make.
And to give Fury a 10-9 round in one of the KD rounds, I feel that was a bit much man. Most people on here just have a rooting interest going into a fight and shape the results the way that suits their narrative and helps their fighter. Perhaps you don't but from your response it would seem that may be the case for you. I judge men equally once they step into the ring.
I watch fights objectively and score them based on the action. Just because Wilder didn't excel in a given round doesn't mean it should automatically go to Fury. Fury clowning around should not get him awarded any points either.
If you think Fury won 8 rounds and should have won by 2 points I could see that. I can't really seeing Wilder getting more than 5 rounds. But the right score was probably somewhere in between there, and I think 7-5 was the right score. Fury didn't do enough to make it clear accounting for the 2 KDs. Anyone saying they saw a boxing clinic from Fury in the first 6 rounds just saw what want to see...
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Originally posted by boliodogs View PostBoxers should never score their own fights. He did not win 10 of the 12 rounds. Wilder won a couple more rounds than that. There were many nothing rounds where Fury only landed 5 light punches and Wilder chased him and landed 4 harder punches. Is that a Fury round? Not to me. The Canadian judge scored it 114 to 112 for Fury and I think that is a more accurate score than Fury's 116 to 110 for himself. Fury should have knocked Wilder SPARK OUT like he promised he would do. Too bad he can't punch the way he claims he can.
I agree 100%.
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Originally posted by u122564 View Postif you had it 7-5 in favor to fury then fury would have won 115-113..?
anyway, fury won on cards in germany, he was ripped off here. he won most his rounds quite clean.
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Originally posted by joe strong View Post7-5 Fury on my card so all he had to do was avoid one of those KDs. The same can be said in Europe. American fighters don't win their either. It is a problem in every country except for my city of Edmonton, Canada. Jelena Mrdenjovich has been screwed over by our judges more than anyone & she is the home fighter. It is very odd. She gets better judging fighting in foreign countries...
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Originally posted by champion4ever View PostBritish fighters and British fans tend to blame everyone but themselves. Even the ones who had Fury winning by the slightest of margins blames the judging.
Which tells me he has only himself to blame because had he done just a little bit more he would have easily won the fight.
It's just plain pathetic how entitled Tyson Fury feels. Just try harder the next time and accept the fight was a draw that could have gone either way or either won by you if only you wanted it badly enough or tried hard enough.
The fight was his but he was just too afraid and cowardly of taking the necessary risks by getting down in the trenches with Deontay Wilder.
If you are too afraid of offense and throwing punches then get Hell out the ring Goddamn it because the world doesn't owe you shit. You owe yourself!
lol
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