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  • Kezzer
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    #91
    Originally posted by Scipio2009
    Hearn says a lot of **** in public that doesn't hold up.

    There's a difference between 40% on a fight, and 40% of the fee that DAZN is willing to pay on the fight for the US rights.

    I don't like their style, but Boxing Voice asked him, point blank, about the split and he couldn't give a straight answer.
    if you want to bring boxing voice into it?

    Even NES, arguably eddies biggest critic and certainly wilders biggest fanboy said after the interview on his podcast that the offer was “too good to turn down” and that wilder should accept the offer

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      #92
      Originally posted by Scipio2009
      Hearn says a lot of **** in public that doesn't hold up.

      There's a difference between 40% on a fight, and 40% of the fee that DAZN is willing to pay on the fight for the US rights.

      I don't like their style, but Boxing Voice asked him, point blank, about the split and he couldn't give a straight answer.
      no he did give a straight answer and specifically said 40% and he'd offered a SPLIT.

      he specifically said that, even nestor shut up about it

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        #93
        Originally posted by Sid-Knee
        Nothing justifies Wilder getting a 50/50 split. But Wilder due to cowardice refuses to get beat unless paid an extortionate amount of money. Thought processes like this is what is killing this "Sport". It's disgusting.
        Again doe I ask what will your stance be when Joshua vs Wilder happens next year since Wilder is supposedly scared or a coward today. Cuz as long as both keep winning they will...and hell even if one or both lose I suspect its still a strong possibility for 2020.

        The reality is this is mostly business, not sport, for both these guys. Fear & that sh^t ain't got nothing to do with nothing unless you're a fanboy of either guy.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Scipio2009
          I don't like their style, but Boxing Voice asked him, point blank, about the split and he couldn't give a straight answer.
          Nes is an idiot. If Nes can fold you on giving a straight answer as a professional boxing promoter doing multimillion deals thats not a good sign.

          Randomly I can't listen to TBV at all anymore. Nes is ******ed & argues with everyone about dumb sh^t too much. Respect on their popularity doe. Can't f#ck with their work ethic & that the people do love them.

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            #95
            Originally posted by DaNeutral.
            Oh well, nothing to get worked up about. Atleast we all are fully clear on the fact that Team Wilder have no interest in a fight with Anthony Joshua. Hopefully somebody else knocks Wilder out and the belt can be released from its captivity.
            You're right. Wilder has never wanted it and somehow manages to wriggle out of dangerous fights and always blames the other side. Worst WBC champion ever.

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              #96
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              no he did give a straight answer and specifically said 40% and he'd offered a SPLIT.

              he specifically said that, even nestor shut up about it
              Pay attention to the words that Eddie Hearn uses, lol

              40% of DAZN's assumed fee; the DAZN fee was what was to be split.

              There's a difference between a 60/40 split, and what Hearn is even boasting publicly (nevermind the fee that he was still offering to Wilder as recent ago as Alvarez-Fielding).

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                #97
                Originally posted by Kezzer
                if you want to bring boxing voice into it?

                Even NES, arguably eddies biggest critic and certainly wilders biggest fanboy said after the interview on his podcast that the offer was “too good to turn down” and that wilder should accept the offer
                There's a difference between 40% of the assumed fee from DAZN on a Joshua-Wilder fight, and a 60/40 split on Joshua-Wilder.

                Don't let the words confuse you.

                Eddie Hearn, on social media anyway, railed about "where's the contract?" yet got enough information on a proposed fight that he went to Joshua's camp with a "fight Wilder in the US on his deal or try to bring him to the UK on a revised deal" choice.

                With it was called a term sheet, proposal, draft, 'Wilder email', or whatever, Eddie Hearn spun his emphasis on the word 'contract' to trick folks out of seeing him looking to maybe set up a deal.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                  Again doe I ask what will your stance be when Joshua vs Wilder happens next year since Wilder is supposedly scared or a coward today. Cuz as long as both keep winning they will...and hell even if one or both lose I suspect its still a strong possibility for 2020.

                  The reality is this is mostly business, not sport, for both these guys. Fear & that sh^t ain't got nothing to do with nothing unless you're a fanboy of either guy.
                  Hearn may end up giving Wilder 50% when it's all said and done. But that still doesn't excuse the lies, delusion, smearing, and cowardice of Wilder and all his fans. When your average is about 1.6 Mill a fight and you can't sell tickets but think you deserve about 50 Mill? Yeah, that's grotesque no matter which way you look at it.

                  I'm surprised you're cool with the way Wilder and his fans have gone about all this. But if you want to feel like that, then don't expect me to view you as fair and decent.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                    Hearn may end up giving Wilder 50% when it's all said and done. But that still doesn't excuse the lies, delusion, smearing, and cowardice of Wilder and all his fans. When your average is about 1.6 Mill a fight and you can't sell tickets but think you deserve about 50 Mill? Yeah, that's grotesque no matter which way you look at it.
                    June 1 will be very interesting. It'll be the first time Joshua fights in America. It'll be the first time he has to file a purse with a commission in a country where the filed purse is public information.

                    Fans are always comparing Joshua's purses to Wilder's purses. I've seen some here say the filed purses aren't true. I have no idea if that's true. I've seen some here say Joshua makes ten times more than Wilder. I have no idea if that's true.

                    Joshua and Wilder are both fighting in New York next though. Wilder's purse will probably be his usual 2 million or maybe 3 million. But will Joshua's be the 30 million that's always claimed? I guess we'll find out.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                      Hearn may end up giving Wilder 50% when it's all said and done. But that still doesn't excuse the lies, delusion, smearing, and cowardice of Wilder and all his fans. When your average is about 1.6 Mill a fight and you can't sell tickets but think you deserve about 50 Mill? Yeah, that's grotesque no matter which way you look at it.

                      I'm surprised you're cool with the way Wilder and his fans have gone about all this. But if you want to feel like that, then don't expect me to view you as fair and decent.
                      Fair & decent have lil & sometimes nothing to do with business. Your naive if you think it does.

                      And Hearn knows & employs that into his strategies & offers as well. There is no good guy or bad guy here. In boxing you're worth whatever you can get & Wilder being arguably #2 (I consider him #3 post-Fury) at HW gives him a certain leverage in negotiations just like Joshua's numbers give him the power he has.

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