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  • #81
    Ortiz is vastly overrated. Moreover, he's old. If he was such a great boxer he wouldn't have lost to someone as Wilder.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by blue_dolphin View Post
      the UK are the home of COWARDS. dont be surprised.

      Fury
      Whyte
      AJ

      all these 3 Brits are ducking Ortiz.
      Lolx.... Ortiz is a liability.
      Let him go bring a world title belt to leverage his negotiation or probably send AJ a contract of 25mil and the fight is done.
      The medics will wake him up before he sees the 10th round.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
        Sure they are and of course he would. Fury's style won't work against King Kong Ortiz because he is the master at controlling range, distance and spacing of a boxing ring due to his amateur pedigree.

        Unlike sluggers like Whyte, Joshua and Wilder; Ortiz will find you. He softens up his opponents up first with jabs and shots to the body while covering a lot of ground for an old man. He walks you down and then back you all night long.
        Hahahaha, you will be no where to be found when Ortiz is flattened and helped to get up by the medics.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by kafkod View Post
          So by your definition, Muhammad Ali didn't have a good chin, because he was decked 4 times in his career, including twice by journeymen Sonny Banks and Chuck Wepner.

          And after being decked by Henry Cooper, Ali - then known as Cassius Clay - was out like a light for several seconds and only just made it to his feet in time before being saved by the bell and staggering back to his corner like a drunken sailor!
          If we were looking at a small sample size like Fury has then yes. Fortunately the sample size for Ali is much larger and he has shown that more times than not, he can take a shot and not go down. Until Fury proves otherwise like Ali did, he has chin issues.

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          • #85
            Fight Shyte. That will put the winner in line for the next mandatory.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
              If we were looking at a small sample size like Fury has then yes. Fortunately the sample size for Ali is much larger and he has shown that more times than not, he can take a shot and not go down. Until Fury proves otherwise like Ali did, he has chin issues.
              Lol .. what a cop out!

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              • #87
                Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                You are even less likely to honour a bet than Ortiz is to beat AJ or Fury.

                In other words, it's not going to happen.
                Cashapp bet is easy. all we need is the username. if the UK cowards stop duckin we'll talk.

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                • #88
                  Can't blame Ortiz for wanting a big check especially with retirement right around the corner

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                    Lol .. what a cop out!
                    It's called context. Try it sometimes instead of throwing out oversimplified factoids trying to prove a point or win an argument. It's a discussion not a competition.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by ThunderFists View Post
                      'Its a proven fact'

                      No no no just no. What you wrote there was just more horse manure. Chin is the ability to take a shot, it involves the strength of the neck and the jaw. You're essentially saying because fury has been dropped he has a bad chin Lol furthermore you're saying its a fact. I shouldn't even be dignifiying this with a response but lemme school you anyway; you're saying a man close to 270lbs -300lbs who is essentially 7 foot tall has a bad chin scientifically you are wrong. Furthermore saying has a bad chin because he has been dropped is utter nonsense, punches you dont see drop you. Simple. It only takes 3lbs of force on the chin to knock somebody out homeboy. Does juan manuel marquez have a bad chin even though he has been dropped plenty but not stopped? Does calzaghe who has been dropped have a bad chin? Ward? LOL get out of here with your 'its a proven fact' moronic **** coming out from your mouth
                      No to all this. I'm saying that Cunningham dropping Fury and Fury's risk averse style when fighting anyone with mediocre power proves he has chin issues.

                      Getting dropped doesn't singularly make a person chinny and I don't even consider Fury chinny. I do feel that his fight style and and getting dropped by a cruiser is evidence enough that he has chin issues. If over time he takes hard shots to the chin and doesn't go down, my opinion will change, but as of today....his chin is his biggest weakness and why he rarely stays in the pocket to exchange.

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