Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz: If No Joshua or Wilder - Bring Me Tyson Fury!

[Laligalaliga]

I never once said that it was anybody's fault but his own that he's not getting big fights nor have I said that anybody owed him something. I never said anybody did.

What is your proposition then? What do you propose that Ortiz do to get big money fights. I've already told you that he is poorly managed and doesn't have a promoter to give him that push or fanbase, a title or make him a box office draw with casual fans or a Pay per view star.

So what do you suggest that he does then? Mr. English fanboy. I am very curious to know.

He already made a great error by jumping ship to go fight wilder. He should have remained in matchroom, wait for his mando position and earn arguably X2/3 of what he earned against wilder.
Eddie would have promoted him better and he will have better chances of fighting other top 15 guy. Eddie would have made that possible easily.

His best bet is to go back to Eddie. There is no other way. Haymon will do nothing for him at this stage.

Lastly, his team can source for sponsors and make decent offers. Anything other than this, he can go ahead and cry, I don't give a fvvk.

The best we can do is come here and write our minds and opinions and facts and in real life nothing will change.

Fans dnt make fight. I say that all the time. Only fights that are win win to all parties involved (fighters, promoters and fans).

[Laligalaliga]

The top two heavy weights he's not going to fight within a year. Besides Ortiz i consider the rest to be bums( minus Putiv ) So i still stand by my quote.

I stand by mine that whyte KO in later rounds absolutely.

[jmrf4435]

I don't think ortiz woud win a round

[The D3vil]

Fury would stop 2015 Ortiz early.

LMAO, feather fisted Fury would stop a guy who'd never even been knocked down by anybody until the most explosive puncher in boxing did it.

Right.

[landotter]

Problem is, if a top fighter beat him people would just mention Ortiz's age. Even against Hammer the commentators came up with the classic "they say you can get old overnight" line.

Joshua, Fury or Whyte would get no credit for beating Ortiz unless Ortiz beats someone of the level below first - the likes of Parker, Kownacki, Povetkin. Wilder wouldn't gain anything by winning a rematch because he's already beaten Ortiz and he's only getting older.

That's his problem, in my opinion.

I actually never thought of it that way. Dang. By that logic, Ortiz may never see a legit fight ever again. Risky match, not a ton of money, and no credit if you beat him is like the trifecta of bad match making for other HW's.

[Redgloveman]

I actually never thought of it that way. Dang. By that logic, Ortiz may never see a legit fight ever again. Risky match, not a ton of money, and no credit if you beat him is like the trifecta of bad match making for other HW's.

Definitely. It’s a shame, but I don’t think Ortiz is going to get a big payday against one of the top 3. I see an outside chance of him getting Fury because Fury’s got this 5 fight deal and will need to fight someone credible not named Wilder or Joshua in his first 2 or 3 fights

[Robbie Barrett]

The Joshua fight is there, take it or forever shut your damn mouth.

[Boksfan]

Is Ortiz gonna expose himself as a lying fake? He better take it.