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  • LacedUp
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    #71
    Originally posted by Ray*
    Go on make a case for Joshua beating Fury...
    You think it's impossible?

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      #72
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      You think it's impossible?
      I don't see how Joshua beats Fury....Yeah if he hits him with a lucky shot that Fury doesn't see, maybe then follow up with a barrage of punches on a static Fury, but i just don't see it.

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        #73
        Originally posted by Ray*
        I don't see how Joshua beats Fury....Yeah if he hits him with a lucky shot that Fury doesn't see, maybe then follow up with a barrage of punches on a static Fury, but i just don't see it.
        I think Joshua could quite easily beat Fury, as well as he could get beaten.

        Just looking at the Wilder fight, Joshua is a totally different animal in the ring physically and technically.

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          #74
          Originally posted by iamboxing
          People watching Fury, Wilder, AJ fights are usually texting crap during their fights, "@tightjeans whats up guys just about to watch the fight #metoo". They don't hold your interest like 90s fighters did for some reason. I don't think it's even about skill. They're just all so generic, flat and devoid of personality. Like Fury is marginally interesting but in the 90s he'd be called a spastic.
          As compared to super charismatic guys like Lewis, Holyfield and Bowe?

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          • Split Decision
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            #75
            Originally posted by iamboxing
            People watching Fury, Wilder, AJ fights are usually texting crap during their fights, "@tightjeans whats up guys just about to watch the fight #metoo". They don't hold your interest like 90s fighters did for some reason. I don't think it's even about skill. They're just all so generic, flat and devoid of personality. Like Fury is marginally interesting but in the 90s he'd be called a spastic.
            think this posts shows more about u than the sport of boxing lmao

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              #76
              Originally posted by _Rexy_
              MUCH less? AJ had 51 fights in the Ams, Lewis had 96. You're acting like this is Lomachenko being compared to Luis Nery.

              But I get it, you guys love AJ and don't like Lewis.

              But you can go back to talking about how AJ is the only person in the world to take up boxing as a 17 year old and become a world champion...After all, Wilder didn't start boxing until he was 19, and had only 35 amateur fights...but that's completely different for some reason.
              I realise that you entered some weird alternative reality when you became a Wilder fanboy.

              But trust me .. in the real world, 51 is still a lot less than 96.

              And 43 - which is the actual number of amateur fights AJ had - is less than both.

              More news from the real world: AJ has still only had 22 pro fights, which is 11 fights less than Wilder had when his manager said he was "still a baby" and not yet ready to unify with Wlad.

              Later that year, Fury beat Wlad in his 25th fight, and AJ later unified against Wlad in his 19th fight.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Ray*
                Go on make a case for Joshua beating Fury...
                i dont think it would be that much of a shock if aj was to beat fury

                id bet on fury and have him as favourite but to think aj winning is absurd is going over board and only fury diehards would think like that and not a rational unbiased fan

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by kafkod
                  I realise that you entered some weird alternative reality when you became a Wilder fanboy.

                  But trust me .. in the real world, 51 is still a lot less than 96.

                  And 43 - which is the actual number of amateur fights AJ had - is less than both.

                  More news from the real world: AJ has still only had 22 pro fights, which is 11 fights less than Wilder had when his manager said he was "still a baby" and not yet ready to unify with Wlad.

                  Later that year, Fury beat Wlad in his 25th fight, and AJ later unified against Wlad in his 19th fight.
                  I was actually comparing Joshua to Lewis, not Wilder. You guys love to mention that AJ has only had 22 pro fights when comparing him to Lewis, but AJ will never touch Lewis, and that's a fact.

                  I brought up Wilder at the end because you mentioned how amazing it was that AJ took up boxing at 17 and only had 51 amateur fights when Wilder took it up at 19 and had 35 amateur fights.

                  As for the 51/43 fights...I assume you removed Walkouts? so Lewis is at 85 or something. And 43/85 is not as huge a discrepancy in the Ams as you'd think, since both guys would often have 3-4 fights per tournament.

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                  • Ray*
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    I think Joshua could quite easily beat Fury, as well as he could get beaten.

                    Just looking at the Wilder fight, Joshua is a totally different animal in the ring physically and technically.
                    I think a fit Fury beats outjab, outmove and outpoint a robotic AJ. I see Fury slowing him down even more with body shots, I see AJ trying harder to get to Fury but being kept at the end of Fury's jabs.

                    Originally posted by Split Decision
                    i dont think it would be that much of a shock if aj was to beat fury

                    id bet on fury and have him as favourite but to think aj winning is absurd is going over board and only fury diehards would think like that and not a rational unbiased fan
                    I don't it absurd...I just don't see how he could. Hence why i want someone to make a case for Joshua.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by LacedUp
                      As compared to super charismatic guys like Lewis, Holyfield and Bowe?
                      Was Larry Holmes drop kicking Berbick off a car in the 80's or 90's?

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