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  • Ray*
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    #51
    Fury is the only one i rate higher and better than the other two. Wilder i have in the middle, Joshua i really don't rate or like his style. But I respect what Joshua done more than Fury and Wilder in his short time. I think Wilder is the most protected out of the three. I think Fury has proven his toughness by going to germany and america.

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #52
      Ok here I go Larry:

      Crawford, natural and flexible talent, fights with confidence like PBF or Whittaker, but not the same cloth of defense, too old now to improve. Walks around 170lbs+, is expected to retire at 154-160 and truly challenge himself as did SRL or the Motorcity Cobra. Facts

      Canelo, at 28, now is his time to truly prove how he fights against more “boxer” styles in Jacobs or Andrade. “Boxer” is subjective since Mexican style has its different STYLE than North America. For example JCC’s Bob and Weave wasn’t incorporated in Barrera, Morales or Marquez. So the whole “Mexican Style” is a gimmick when being described by North American haters.

      Wilder: uses an underrated high guard even at the ropes unlike Fury or AJ. Wilder is a timed heavyweight, looks for counters. He is extremely fast when he needs to be and sometimes really slow when he shouldn’t. Power has mean intentions like Liston.

      AJ: also a very composed HW. Uses very conservative fundamentals that Olympians are taught, just like Wilder. AJ’s best moments are on the inside for uppercuts. Doesn’t have reach skills.

      Fury: a HW that enjoys taking risks in the ring, like Ali. Meaning, he likes to dance and let anything go. His size and weight makes it seem like he’s a hard hitter, however now that Fury looks thinner like never before, his jabs and rights might not have as much pop. Fun HW to watch.

      Lomachenko: is coasting the Bob Arum wave like Crawford. Top Rank fighters have a history of letting their promoters make fights while reporters somehow never challenge how fights should get made when asking such questions.

      Usyk: Will soon be Top 4 Heavyweight, easily.

      Mikey Garcia: should be beat Spence, many of the anti pro-everybody YouTube channels will go silent and bring up Conte for months while never talking about RJJ or Toney.

      Inoue: best fighter in the lower weights. Really good body work and fluid, like a fast version of Canelo arching his his body for gut shots.

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      • Damn Wicked
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        #53
        The truth is that boxing fans vastly overrate certain fighters and and vastly underrate other fighters. I often hear people say fighter A would beat fighter B every time if they fought 100 times. That kind of talk is complete bowschitt. A 50th ranked fighter always has a chance against the #1 fighter. Things can go wrong for ANY fighter on any given night. None of the greatest fighters are/ were unbeatable. That kind of thinking is best left for fanboys of comic book superheroes.

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        • jas
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          #54



          another brutal truth: another black interviewer for a youtube channel pretending to be a journalist, defending that wilder didnt lose. i didnt think it was a robbery. but the inconsistency just exposes these channels. they score every other fight to the "slick" fighter , because that is the black american style, and all of a sudden they are not saying the slick fury won. then when this particular interviewer is told everyone else thinks fury got robbed, he reverts to saying the count is long. the count was not long. he wants to defend the black fighter so much he is prepared to lie , or he is so emotionally invested he cant think straight and thus feeds bad information

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          • elfag
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            #55
            lol Larry shouldnt have admitted Wilder's flaws.

            I dont see a single Brit in this thread that came in to admit Fury's flaws.

            Only a few that came in to claim he is still the best of the 3.

            You are wasting your breath man.

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            • CharlieStewart
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              #56
              Originally posted by jas



              another brutal truth: another black interviewer for a youtube channel pretending to be a journalist, defending that wilder didnt lose. i didnt think it was a robbery. but the inconsistency just exposes these channels. they score every other fight to the "slick" fighter , because that is the black american style, and all of a sudden they are not saying the slick fury won. then when this particular interviewer is told everyone else thinks fury got robbed, he reverts to saying the count is long. the count was not long. he wants to defend the black fighter so much he is prepared to lie , or he is so emotionally invested he cant think straight and thus feeds bad information
              Then they will act like they are victims claim and there is some white supremacist conspiracy in boxing to keep them down when in reality it's the total opposite and black American fighters are always benefitting from being protected by the Americam boxing establishment.

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              • BodiesInFlight
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                #57
                Originally posted by larryxxx..
                Who has he fought with a great jab that used it?
                Originally posted by LacedUp
                Klitschko
                Larry can be hilarious at times

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                • Fabes88
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
                  what kills me is when people act like fury and Joshua have some sort of legendary resume. Specifically Fury if you take klitschko off of his resume Wilder has the better resume. I don’t want to hear anything about cruiserweight Steve Cunningham. I think Fury’s chin is the worst out of the three but he is the better boxer.
                  Lol@ if you take klitchko off his resume. You can’t unfortunately. Face facts wilders resume is absolutely horrible. Also he’s had almost double the fights fury and aj have had. Ok if you take Ortiz off wilders resume (who’s best win is Jennings) what do you have? Stiverne who gets beat by 7 fight novices?

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                  • Fabes88
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by earl-hickey
                    I know what you are trying to do here but for a 29 year old with 22 fights or w/e Joshua's resume is "pretty good" at minimum

                    Fury well he has two big wins but little else

                    Wilder... I'm trying to throw Wilder a bone here but at 41 fights and almost in his mid 30s his resume is quite lacking
                    Exactly this.

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                    • Fabes88
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by earl-hickey
                      people always **** on the era we currently have and glorify the past

                      "this is the worst era ever"

                      I dont have to go back far to when shannon briggs and sergei liakovic had titles to prove that's an idiotic statement
                      This is the strongest era of heavyweights in the last 10-15 years.

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