Comments Thread For: Espinoza Feels Joshua Wants Wilder Fight, Hearn Does Not

[Redgloveman]

only offered when he knew, and was told by wilder, that wilder was pursuing fury rematch....

So what? That offer hasn't been taken off the table, has it?

So how can you claim that Hearn is shying away from the fight when he's offering what is universally accepted as a credible offer.

To say Hearn doesn't want the fight just doesn't stack up with the reality of what's actually happening. People should be happy about that, but some would prefer not to see the fight and get to call Hearn a b***h than actually see Wilder and Joshua fight

[pillowfists98]

Espinoza got exposed. There was no contract. This guy is a total liar.

[Scipio2009]

“It’s really hard to have a discussion with someone who has no regards for the truth. You want to hang your hat that you received a detail three page document with all the fight terms and you want to say it’s not a contract because it did not have a signature line? Ok point remains, they got a very detailed summary of all fight terms. Sky as broadcaster in UK and all the requirements of the fight. There was basically radio silence after that.”

They both are playing games to me. First off Espinoza how do you send a 3 page document outlining every detail but leave off a signature line? Was it a rough draft to see if Hearn would agree? Also if Hearn's team read this document then why didn't they counter offer or simply say : add a signature line and it's a deal!? There's enough blame to go around too many egos involved sounds like.

Yes, my guess is that a term sheet is basically a first draft; for a fight the magnitude of Wilder-Joshua, do you honestly think that the terms/clauses can be spelled out in three pages?

Once the parameters are set with an agreement on the terms, then you can get the contract ready.

Wilder and Fury came to an agreement on the first fight, then negotiated the details, and ended up fighting.

Wilder and Fury came to an agreement on the rematch, again set on negotiating the details, but saw that fall apart because Warren/Fury decided to move elsewhere.

Not really seeing the both sides but, tbh. Even Hearn himself, when he sat and talked with Kuggan Cassius, openly said that on a Joshua yes, he'd then dig in and lock down all of the tend to look after Joshua.

[Tyistall]

All the positives you are expressing about Hearn's efforts are based on what? They are based on what Hearn has said and as Espinosa states, Hearn has little regard for the truth. So maybe the truth is Hearn is more concerned with his promoting income than with making the Joshua/Wilder fight. The best thing AJ can do is to get rid of Hearn and find a promoter that puts his fighters interests ahead of his own.

Yeah, AJ is making 30+ million to fight Miller, I think he's good with his promoter. Maybe Wilder will get a promoter who can get him 15 million fighting Breazeale?? Oh wait, there is one out there, the one you hate hahahahha. Dumbass

[STREET CLEANER]

When Hearn negotiates out of the lime light he gets the fight done, hence Canelo/Jacob

He negotiates via the media a la Arum the fights never get made.

If you are serious you don't negotiate via the media.

[rickJen]

When Hearn negotiates out of the lime light he gets the fight done, hence Canelo/Jacob

He negotiates via the media a la Arum the fights never get made.

If you are serious you don't negotiate via the media.

Hearn has never been the reason why fights don't happen.
He and his fighters have been B-sides many times.
He fully cooperated.
Problem with Wilder is he's too arrogant to accept being B-side to Joshua.

[Scipio2009]

Wilder fan logic 101 again. Fury didn't play himself, HE PAID HIMSELF haha. And Wilder may be worth 20 million, but he won't get more than 2 million per fight if he is not fighting Fury or AJ so yeah, he IS left out in the cold. And how can Wilder build a net worth if he keeps turning down all the ESPN and DAZN paydays??? Turn down 25 million to make 2 million? And that makes sense to you???

I don't know how credible the interviewer is, but there's an interview up, right now, where Bob Arum is asked about the Fury deal and openly says that the $100m price tag for the five Fury fights is full of ****. Take that how you wish.

Still if the bulk of the assumed value in the 5-fight deal is contingent on Fury/Warren getting Wilder and/or Fury to fight him on ESPN in the US, he really did **** himself.

Because, if the five fights really do end up being Tom Scwartz, Oscar Rivas, Joseph Parker, Daniel Dubois, and one more name (Fury isn't going to fight Joshua as WBO mandatory for 25% of a bid, or as IBF mandatory for 35% of a bid, and the WBC is unlikely to hold onto that special 40% number either), there's seemingly no way in hell that Fury sees $100m, lol.

[OldTerry]

Yeah, AJ is making 30+ million to fight Miller, I think he's good with his promoter. Maybe Wilder will get a promoter who can get him 15 million fighting Breazeale?? Oh wait, there is one out there, the one you hate hahahahha. Dumbass

You are a dumberass

[Scipio2009]

DAZN is a worldwide sports content company. They aren't going out of business over boxing.

If boxing proves not worth the investment for DAZN they COULD quit investing in boxing doe.

Oscar has Canelo's clear loyalty (how he locked that in is beyond me), Oscar has JoJo Diaz in the fold, and Oscar has a pretty decent Latin prospects roster under that (Ryan Garcia, Diego DLH, Falcao, others I couldn't make, tbh; interested in seeing how many end up making the move with RGBA that I see coming).

With Joshua not formally tied to DAZN, and Callum Smith/Kell Brook the only world names tied to him for any real length of time (interested in knowing Brook's deal, tbh; Jacobs may stay, but he's moving three fights at a time. Buatsi, Kelly, and the other 2016 fighters aren't there yet), what's to stop DAZN from choosing to opt out of the deal with Hearn, make Golden Boy the lead outfit for DAZN in the US, and shop Hearn fights on a show-by-show basis?

[Tyistall]

Man, I keep forgetting. Wilder fans make up facts, bend the truth and all around don't deal with reality. Ok, then keep supporting your ducking, fake, bum beating chumpion Wilder. I guess he will get beat before he gets to fight AJ or Fury again anyway and we won't have to have any more of these posts. You guys can keep defending him fighting for 1 million and turning down 20 million hahaha. enjoy