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  • #11
    “It’s really hard to have a discussion with someone who has no regards for the truth. You want to hang your hat that you received a detail three page document with all the fight terms and you want to say it’s not a contract because it did not have a signature line? Ok point remains, they got a very detailed summary of all fight terms. Sky as broadcaster in UK and all the requirements of the fight. There was basically radio silence after that.”

    They both are playing games to me. First off Espinoza how do you send a 3 page document outlining every detail but leave off a signature line? Was it a rough draft to see if Hearn would agree? Also if Hearn's team read this document then why didn't they counter offer or simply say : add a signature line and it's a deal!? There's enough blame to go around too many egos involved sounds like.

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    • #12
      I think Hearn needs to stop trying to make this fight or stop pretending he wants the fight. He had given too many interviews with numbers of what he has for Wilder. That’s not normal chasing a fight like that. For me Team Wilder doesn’t want to sit down and talk about this fight. This fight should be the next logically fight if both wins their next fight. But one side clearly doesn’t want to sit down and talk about it. We all just need to move on from it.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER View Post
        Fury didn’t play him he played himself lol. This toprank deal will end badly and he will be froze out it will be Wilder Joshua at the end of the year. Wilder is worth 20M so I’m sure he’s fine with this fake 1-2million paydays you mentioned lmao. Wilder didn’t think he could get 60-40 those were the rules and have always been the rules for a championship fight. Fury is a cheater so of course he doesn’t think the rules apply to him. Wilder will continue to build his networth while Fury has to answer to his 3 bosses while going back to fighting bums. He is a boring fighter fans won’t shell out money once they see his fighting style has always been boring.
        Wilder fan logic 101 again. Fury didn't play himself, HE PAID HIMSELF haha. And Wilder may be worth 20 million, but he won't get more than 2 million per fight if he is not fighting Fury or AJ so yeah, he IS left out in the cold. And how can Wilder build a net worth if he keeps turning down all the ESPN and DAZN paydays??? Turn down 25 million to make 2 million? And that makes sense to you???

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        • #14
          Rat boy you got exposed as a stone cold liar by Hearn

          Spreading fake news about contracts given which Hearn exposed you as not sending anything

          Only people who have went contracts to get the fight made was Hearn and Joshua

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Dramacyde View Post
            Hearn is trying to milk DAZN for whatever he can before they blow their load. The money that DAZN is paying out to fighters is not equal to their subscribers. They'll be financially *****ed in a year or 2
            DAZN is a worldwide sports content company. They aren't going out of business over boxing.

            If boxing proves not worth the investment for DAZN they COULD quit investing in boxing doe.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by AdonisCreed View Post
              “It’s really hard to have a discussion with someone who has no regards for the truth. You want to hang your hat that you received a detail three page document with all the fight terms and you want to say it’s not a contract because it did not have a signature line? Ok point remains, they got a very detailed summary of all fight terms. Sky as broadcaster in UK and all the requirements of the fight. There was basically radio silence after that.”

              They both are playing games to me. First off Espinoza how do you send a 3 page document outlining every detail but leave off a signature line? Was it a rough draft to see if Hearn would agree? Also if Hearn's team read this document then why didn't they counter offer or simply say : add a signature line and it's a deal!? There's enough blame to go around too many egos involved sounds like.

              This is why I want to see what Hearn claimed he received. Firstly Stephen said Wilder sent it, Hearn claimed Wilder sent it. So we can all agree Stephen didn’t sent the email.

              So if Stephen didn’t send the email how does he know what was sent? I mean did Wilder forgot to attach the “detailed document” that Stephen is referring to? Because according to Hearn he received “A paragraph” of an email from Wilder saying he has 50m for Joshua.

              And even if they have 50m for Joshua why would his opponent be sending that sort of email? Wouldn’t it be better sent by his lawyers, managers or representatives?

              Moreover Warren and Lou di Bella confirm that BT sport were involved in the 50+30m offer, where would that come in? Where would that leave Joshua along with his sky deal. Especially now that we see how Wilder doesn’t want to fight on any other network (As a free agent) and Fury can’t fight on another network as he is signed exclusively to ESPN.

              Which should have put that offer into contest if BT sport were involved.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Tyistall View Post
                Wilder fan logic 101 again. Fury didn't play himself, HE PAID HIMSELF haha. And Wilder may be worth 20 million, but he won't get more than 2 million per fight if he is not fighting Fury or AJ so yeah, he IS left out in the cold. And how can Wilder build a net worth if he keeps turning down all the ESPN and DAZN paydays??? Turn down 25 million to make 2 million? And that makes sense to you???
                That 80M deal has already been debunked that was just put out by Fury team so it wouldn’t seem like he was ducking. No1 in their right mind would give a drug addict who is the most boring heavyweight at the moment 80m dollars. Why are you brits so concerned with his money? How can he build it? The same way he’s been building it staying loyal to Al Haymon. He doesn’t need to DAZN or ESPN.

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                • #18
                  we're back to this again....

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by AdonisCreed View Post
                    “It’s really hard to have a discussion with someone who has no regards for the truth. You want to hang your hat that you received a detail three page document with all the fight terms and you want to say it’s not a contract because it did not have a signature line? Ok point remains, they got a very detailed summary of all fight terms. Sky as broadcaster in UK and all the requirements of the fight. There was basically radio silence after that.”

                    They both are playing games to me. First off Espinoza how do you send a 3 page document outlining every detail but leave off a signature line? Was it a rough draft to see if Hearn would agree? Also if Hearn's team read this document then why didn't they counter offer or simply say : add a signature line and it's a deal!? There's enough blame to go around too many egos involved sounds like.
                    that's exactly what it was...a 3 page outline of the important details of the fight.....hearn knows this and he knows that is also standard practice.....both sides agree to terms before an official contract is drawn up to sign....its common knowledge

                    but hearn is preying on the dumb...hes saying "you didn't send a contract" and the dummies are eating it up....anyone who knows anything knows what happened and that hearn is straight up arguing semantics to save face

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                    • #20
                      I feel like it's pretty clear that a sensible offer has been offered to Wilder by Hearn. 60/40 is a very fair deal by any sensible reckoning. I don't think you can really claim that Hearn doesn't want the fight at this moment in time. In the past I would have totally agreed, but not based on the most current information.

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