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  • Curtis Harper
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    #51
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    I'm genuinely disgusted with how biased some of you so called boxing fans are. Bruno would be the #1 HW in this era. Wilder in the 90s wouldn't even be a top 10.
    It's head to head, not who has the better resume. I for one don't think Bruno can hurt or out box Wilder. I feel Wilder would hurt Frank and that will be that. The era's they fought in doesn't matter I think.

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #52
      Originally posted by Curtis Harper
      It's head to head, not who has the better resume. I for one don't think Bruno can hurt or out box Wilder. I feel Wilder would hurt Frank and that will be that. The era's they fought in doesn't matter I think.
      Bruno was one of the hardest punchers ever. He's right up there with Wilder in power, but he can't hurt Wilder? Righto pal, come back when you know what you're talking about. He also had 1 punch KO power in both hands unlike Wilder and he was far more skilled it's not even close, stop embarrassing yourself. I bet you've never even seen a Bruno fight. Of course the eras matter, you're overrating Wilder because he's in a terrible era, he wouldn't be a title holder in Bruno's era not even close to one.
      Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 03-02-2019, 06:56 AM.

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      • LetOutTheCage
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        #53
        Originally posted by john l
        How can you say he should have been stopped when he survived and KOed him?????????That's the dumbest thing ive ever read on here and that's saying a lot.OMG I bet you don't feel the same way about Fury vs Wilder who was down TWICE for 9 counts the 2nd he was out cold(by his own words)for 5 secs.And you know what they should not have stopped that fight either because he showed he could survive(at least for that round).You have no credibility anymore on ANY THING you say.Unreal ******.
        If u cant see the difference between getting dropped and answering the 10 count as opposed to remaining on ur feet but offering nothing back (attack or even putting his hands up) then I don't know what to say to you...Ortiz was t'ing off on him with no reply from Wilder the fight would have been stopped if it was the other way around.

        Fury was incredibly lucky, as most refs would have waved the fight off. But in this circumstance it was the right decision because he went on to out-box Wilder for the remainder of the round. He still had to answer the 10 count...

        Wilder on the other hand was wobbly well after the round had finished.

        It proves my point though, if Ortiz had huge power Wilder would have been out cold he's lucky that old man Ortiz gassed a few rounds later.
        Continue defending Wilder like a good fanboy

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        • Curtis Harper
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          #54
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          Bruno was one of the hardest punchers ever. He's right up there with Wilder in power, but he can't hurt Wilder? Righto pal, come back when you know what you're talking about. He also had 1 punch KO power in both hands unlike Wilder and he was far more skilled it's not even close, stop embarrassing yourself. I bet you've never even seen a Bruno fight. Of course the eras matter, you're overrating Wilder because he's in a terrible era, he wouldn't be a title holder in Bruno's era not even close to one.
          Again, head to head, I see Wilder ending Bruno in the 6th. You would see things differently. That's about it.

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          • john l
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            #55
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
            There's a difference from having a bad chin and one that can take the punchers of one of the hardest hitters at HW. Bruno was a massive puncher, Wilder would get stopped. He hasn't got an Oliver McCall chin.
            He don't need McCall's chin. Bruno was a tad underated(very good power and good jab)but no stamina and bad chin.Wilder hits harder and has better chin and stamina.No way could Bruno take Wilders shots and Wilder is also quicker.Its kinda odd to discuss Wilders chin in a MM with Bruno who deff was chinny.And please don't bring HS fight when he was just a pup.You can nitpick ANYONE with that logic.I mean Ali who most would say had one of best chins ever at heavyweight was dropped HARD by little H Cooper but took Foreman,Shavers,Frazier.Mercer was dropped by a decent punching Holyfied but ate up the shots of huge punchers Lewis,Morrison,Cooper(who was in shape for that fight).

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            • john l
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              #56
              Originally posted by Curtis Harper
              Again, head to head, I see Wilder ending Bruno in the 6th. You would see things differently. That's about it.
              Agree and don't see it that close.And that fight you have in your profile I almost went to but something came up.And I really wanted to go mostly to see Efe boy I would have been pi ssed off lol.

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                #57
                Originally posted by john l
                Agree and don't see it that close.And that fight you have in your profile I almost went to but something came up.And I really wanted to go mostly to see Efe boy I would have been pi ssed off lol.
                Efe was effin' lucky they didn't pay me what I'm worth

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                • maverique
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                  #58
                  Bruno v Wilder

                  Really interesting post this 1.

                  I used to love Bruno with the flag d****d and the honest good nature of him.

                  Bruno to his credit had Tyson rocked big time and also had Lewis in trouble...Lewis 2 defeats were freak punches and was never outboxed but he actually was v Bruno.

                  I agree on the guys emotional defence eras do not matter as Bruno would have adapted...

                  The only issue with Bruno was he was a nice guy and the tank ran out after 6...if he had a mentality to damage I feel he may have beat Tyson.....and feared a reply hit less.

                  Wilder with height and reach has the ability to wait and stalk like the praying mantis....for me Bruno would outbox him but Wilder would land early I feel and stop him...the guys power is better than anyone I ever seen....foreman was amazing but he didn't rush in like Wilder and this is added power ....it is the launch ... many fights been stopped up close too...

                  I love big frank but wilder so underrated on the punch....I keep seeing he folk stating fought no1.....no1 fights champs early....no1 at this weight bar maybe Joyce....Wilder power is not normal...he would stop Bruno I feel in the first 6 as soon as 1 lands...Brunos ability to take a punch was ok but he went into defence mode and this is where I see wilder ending it the first second this happens...

                  To beat Wilder I feel you have got to fire back with venom when hurt and Bruno went into shell....

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                  • john l
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
                    If u cant see the difference between getting dropped and answering the 10 count as opposed to remaining on ur feet but offering nothing back (attack or even putting his hands up) then I don't know what to say to you...Ortiz was t'ing off on him with no reply from Wilder the fight would have been stopped if it was the other way around.

                    Fury was incredibly lucky, as most refs would have waved the fight off. But in this circumstance it was the right decision because he went on to out-box Wilder for the remainder of the round. He still had to answer the 10 count...

                    Wilder on the other hand was wobbly well after the round had finished.

                    It proves my point though, if Ortiz had huge power Wilder would have been out cold he's lucky that old man Ortiz gassed a few rounds later.
                    Continue defending Wilder like a good fanboy
                    You clearly have an agenda you say Fury deserved to be let continue because he "outboxed" Wilder after being KOed for 5 secs(which I agree)But Wilder should have been stopped when he did not EVEN GO DOWN!!!And he came back to KO Ortiz???Like I said prob the dumbest thing ive seen on here cong****.And its CLEAR as a bell your THE FANBOY.See ya would not want to be ya.Im not wasting anymore time on a moron.

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                    • Toffee
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                      #60
                      People have a distorted view of Bruno. He could box, he had serious power, and he could be right nasty in the ring. When he needed to he spoiled fights and worked guys over.

                      The fights he lost were all big fights and he was ahead against everyone except Tyson. And he fought Tyson earlier than Lewis and Holyfield.

                      The story for Wilder would be the same as against most top 10 fighters. He's relying on landing that one big shot. Against smaller men or boxers like Fury he gets 12 rounds to land one shot - so the odds improve for him. But Bruno was a boxer puncher. I don't see Wilder lasting 12 rounds with those types. He would take too much punishment.

                      Bruno by KO within 6. And I don't think he sees the 5th round with AJ.

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