Why did Finkel refuse to meet with Hearn?

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  • rickJen
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    #11
    So there is no clear explanation to this other than
    maybe Finkel had to deal with Wilder's other greedy, inexperienced managers,
    who may have veto powers but would rather lay low.

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    • Ray*
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      #12
      He would have to open the books and reveal a lot of hidden things. They actually cancelled two agreed meetings before any offers were made from both sides.

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        #13
        I can't think of a case which involves millions of dollars where the other party is denied a meeting. And you're telling me Hearn is the obstacle in the fight not happening?

        Come on.

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          #14
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Because he didn’t want his time wasted.
          Completely out the blue he just made a $50mill offer and he doesnt want to meet to discuss it?

          Ok. What a waste of time

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          • IMDAZED
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            #15
            Originally posted by Tom Cruise
            Completely out the blue he just made a $50mill offer and he doesnt want to meet to discuss it?

            Ok. What a waste of time
            I’m sure they discussed it plenty over the phone. And that’s where he got the sense that the sitdown wasn’t worth it.

            But really...why do folks act as if the story ended there?

            Afterward, Hearn said he asked about the offer, got the answers he wanted, and at one point said the deal was 70% done.

            Then he said they weren’t taking the deal because, although he understands that the fight makes more im the US, they didn’t need to go to the US, etc. Seems this is overlooked to harp on a sidenote that could have occurred for a multitude of reasons.

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            • DaNeutral.
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              #16
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              I’m sure they discussed it plenty over the phone. And that’s where he got the sense that the sitdown wasn’t worth it.

              But really...why do folks act as if the story ended there?

              Afterward, Hearn said he asked about the offer, got the answers he wanted, and at one point said the deal was 70% done.

              Then he said they weren’t taking the deal because, although he understands that the fight makes more im the US, they didn’t need to go to the US, etc. Seems this is overlooked to harp on a sidenote that could have occurred for a multitude of reasons.
              DEFLECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!

              Hearn had not had lots of phone meetings with Finkel about this offer, he knew very little of this offer. They cancelled meetings and refused to send a contract even though Hearn claimed to be interested and asked to be sent a contract or term list.

              How come these Wilder fans go over everything Hearn or Joshua with a fine tooth comb but are happy just to brush aside anything when it comes to Wilder? "Oh im sure they had lots of phone calls, but hey enough about that what about this"

              Not that any of that matters, that wasnt even this year. These Wilder fans need to let it go, when there is offers and contracts being sent on a regular basis its harder than ever to believe they are ducking Deontay Wilder.

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                #17
                They met the one time when Hearn was in NY for the Jacobs Luis Arias fight. How many more times do they need to meet? It’s 2018/19.

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                • IMDAZED
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                  DEFLECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  Hearn had not had lots of phone meetings with Finkel about this offer, he knew very little of this offer. They cancelled meetings and refused to send a contract even though Hearn claimed to be interested and asked to be sent a contract or term list.

                  How come these Wilder fans go over everything Hearn or Joshua with a fine tooth comb but are happy just to brush aside anything when it comes to Wilder? "Oh im sure they had lots of phone calls, but hey enough about that what about this"

                  Not that any of that matters, that wasnt even this year. These Wilder fans need to let it go, when there is offers and contracts being sent on a regular basis its harder than ever to believe they are ducking Deontay Wilder.
                  He knew plenty of the other. He said so in many subsequent interviews. I’m not sure you read my entire post so I’ll extend you the same courtesy.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by genrick
                    Has there ever been a clear explanation to such strange behaviour?
                    Help me understand.
                    it wasnt strange behavior at all and has been explained clearly. since youre just a fan, how would you have any idea what behavior is considered strange in terms of negotiating fights?

                    finkel wanted to know if they were meeting to finalize the 50 million deal or if hearn wanted to meet to make a different proposal. at the time, wilder was only interested in the 50 million deal, so if hearn wanted to meet about a counter offer to come to the UK, the wilder side had no interest in discussing that.

                    since hearn refused to say whether joshua was agreeing in principle to come to the US if the other deal points were satisfactory, finkel didnt want to waste time discussing other deal points if the money was just going to get rejected anyway.

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                    • rickJen
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                      #20
                      So there's no clear explanation on this other than spin.
                      I see.

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