How come its so hard to build new PPV stars?

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  • brettWall
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    #11
    They're not as active now. Fans barely see them fight.

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    • LADIV
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      #12
      Originally posted by hectari
      Pacquiao and Floyd are the last crossover stars

      Canelo is up thre but his name isnt really household in America. I feel if he spoke English he would be a huge mega star but he refuses to learn English

      Most people I know dont order his fights unless they are mexican decent or latino, but with Pac and Floyd they had people from all races in America buying their fights, same with Oscar

      why is it hard for these younger boxers to become stars on ppv you would think it would be easier with the social media and internet

      Is it because they just dont have that It factor to them nothing unique to their style or personality?

      Pacquiao was a berserker non stop come forward wild man with no fear, Floyd was a brash talking villian, Oscar the pretty golden boy.

      None of these younger guys really stand out.
      cenelo speaks English that he chooses not to is a different story..for someone that doesnt speak English like you say he has the richest contract in sports history...

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      • lparm
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        #13
        Originally posted by Scipio2009
        Ronda and Brock are in the WWE, and Conor is basically done with fighting at this point, try again
        Ronda is a global star when she was in mma

        Conor is a global star that is in mma

        Try again

        Arguably Brock was helped by wwe but he became a bigger star in the mma

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        • TheUptownKid
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          #14
          Casuals don’t like boxing they like storylines. 90% of boxers are from poor backgrounds with minimal differentiation between them in the eyes of the everyday joe.

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          • pillowfists98
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            #15
            Ryan Garcia has 2 million Instagram followers. How many MMA fighters can say that?

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            • hectari
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              #16
              Originally posted by KillaMane26
              How long were Manny n Floyd fighting before they became stars?

              Its gon take time. We in a transitional phase rn..all the stars retired and the new ones dont have rivals to build their names yet.
              Manny and Floyd were very popular before social media though Pac was selling 425k buys on pppv back in 2005 and he never fought anywhere other than HBO he was an instant draw and was like 25 or 26 years old

              this was before social media and 247

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              • hectari
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                #17
                Originally posted by pillowfists98
                Ryan Garcia has 2 million Instagram followers. How many MMA fighters can say that?
                Actually a lot of UFC fighters have 500 to 1 million followers on the gram

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                • DaNeutral.
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                  #18
                  Well they dont find it too hard in the UK. Maybe its a mixture of the ridiculous prices and American Boxing fans being fed mismatches, crap fights and robberies. American Boxing fans, even the casuals, are not going to put up with that for too long before you start seeing a decline in numbers. Which America has clearly seen.

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                  • megh50
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by hectari
                    Pacquiao and Floyd are the last crossover stars

                    Canelo is up thre but his name isnt really household in America. I feel if he spoke English he would be a huge mega star but he refuses to learn English

                    Most people I know dont order his fights unless they are mexican decent or latino, but with Pac and Floyd they had people from all races in America buying their fights, same with Oscar

                    why is it hard for these younger boxers to become stars on ppv you would think it would be easier with the social media and internet

                    Is it because they just dont have that It factor to them nothing unique to their style or personality?

                    Pacquiao was a berserker non stop come forward wild man with no fear, Floyd was a brash talking villian, Oscar the pretty golden boy.

                    None of these younger guys really stand out.
                    You have to beat or seriously compete with a major star and continue winning to become a major draw. Ali beat Liston. Oscar beat Chavez and continued winning. Floyd beat Oscar, Pac beat Oscar. Horn and Bradley rose to fame off of beating Pac. Nobody beat Floyd, so he hasn't transitioned his gravitas to anyone, but Maidana rose to fame by giving Floyd hell twice. Fury beat Klitchko, and Wilder and Fury both elevated each other. AJ beat Klitchko. Every major star builds off of another. But the best aren't fighting the best these days, so that major star has not emerged as yet.

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                    • Beercules
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by FinitoxDinamita
                      Why cant they just be stars instead of PPV stars? PPV is on its way out.

                      We need stars who fight on Fox,cbs, and espn.

                      Im not paying for no god dam ppv unless they look like Don King’s cards in the 90s.

                      We dont need to pay for PPVs today.
                      This right here ^^^^^^^

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