Comments Thread For: Holyfield: Wilder is The Best at Heavyweight, Not Joshua

[MELLOMAN007]

What is all this about AJ all of a sudden not fighting nobody? He's fought arguably tougher opposition than Wilder and Fury.

How can you also criticise the ref giving Fury a fair opportunity to mount a recovery?

These guys shouldn't be asked for their opinion, it's almost never measured or not biased.

They shouldn't be asked their opinion because you don't agree with it? LMAO

[champion4ever]

Beautifully said,.. Wilders been calling out Joshua for years now. And all anyones ever hears is roundabout talk coming from both Hearns... Sr. "wait two years,"...Sr,"If AJs unbeaten for 10 yrs and doesnt fight Deontay Wilder, I'll take that"...we need a "7yr plan"...."DUCK" Wilder "he's strong,"...."Rob McCracken" believes the "fight should be delivered in the UK"....Hearn jr regarding Joshua SWEARING to the 50mil, "AJs not really swayed by an extra 10 or 15mil, he'd rather fight in front of his fans."..."we have a guy who is making all this money, and can continue doing so, in risk free fights"..."12.5mil flat fee no %age"..."but does that mean were gonna roll over and let you play with our balls.." what??.....Wilder has them stumbling, because the gravy train will slooooww on down if AJ loses.....

Thanks for the kind words, I greatly appreciate them.

[champion4ever]

Absolutely true statements sir! For whatever reason many try to tear him down and he takes it in stride with pride knowing that with one punch he can put down ANY man on Earth. He is able to drop all these guys despite a severe weight disadvantage every fight. Imagine being a welterweight and having to fight Super middle to Cruiser weighs every fight out. They should give the man some respect.

Thanks for the compliments, they are much appreciated

[Bum squad]

AJ Will do a Charles Martin on Wilder. No way Wilder has the skills to avoid being hit and AJ is not hanging around 12 rounds for Wilder to land a windmill so will force the action. 2/3 rounds and its over.

[BoxOfficer]

Most times I take what these ATG's say with a pinch of salt. These guys don't watch boxing as much as some folks here on NBS. Yes, some ATGs get paid as commentators and attend events, although they look sideways and chitchat most of the time. I doubt if they actually bother watching full replays, which some folks here do a lot. I've heard an ATG speak about a relatively popular fighter in this manner: "...I haven't really seen much of him except maybe on one occasion...."
Besides the bias, that's how some of them are.

Well, It's sad to hear Holyfield talk BS about Jack Reiss' call in the 12th, when it was proven right in hindsight. He is entitled to his opinion (bias), but I don't agree Wilder is even second best, let alone the best.
AJ is clearly the number one yet NOT the most skilled in my views. On that department, I have Ortiz, Povetkin, and Fury ahead of him. As for Wilder, skill has never been his strong point, but we all know that already.

[lion33lit]

Joshua hasn’t got anything left to prove. There are too many short memory ‘fans’ on here. Wilder fought 39 bums, nearly got beat by Ortiz and then was beaten by an 80% Fury.

Joshua has done more in less time and is rated #1 by the ranking systems that matter.

Yes, Lennox, Sugar Ray, Holyfield are all ATG’s but they just push an opinion based on their own agenda which suits Wilder fans agenda’s. Joshua is the #1 HW in the world, it’s a fact, not opinion. It’s a bitter pill to swallow for Wilder fans to swallow but swallow they must.

I see it now, the complete bums Joshua has faced has you salivating - convincing you they lived in the gym?! Youre wrong buddy! Holyfield, Lennox, Ray & Fury know more than your zombie brain can comprehend, so try to learn from them. Wilder has had DOUBLE the fights your pretty boy hero has had, has had to "get up" (motivated) for each one and came out on top each time! Your hyped commercial ready pop star hero has had quadruple the photo shoots with late night classes listening to every word that comes out both Hearns mouths on how to be a prop.

Bonafide champs have to clue your mini brain into thinking how a true champ conducts himself...take note: Muscles & smiling don't automatically make you champ - they help in casting calls. Eddie says AJ runs the show, AJ says Eddie runs the show! Which one is it?! I'll tell you. GREED runs their show. For some time now, they can't put Poshuas FIRST REAL fight together (against a PRIME opponent) because they know it'll affect their income!! Once he loses, the FAKE commercial mystique is GONE and possibly a suicide attempt by you! LEARN from the REAL CHAMPS not who you want to look like....

[Earl-Hickey]

I see it now, the complete bums Joshua has faced has you salivating - convincing you they lived in the gym?! Youre wrong buddy! Holyfield, Lennox, Ray & Fury know more than your zombie brain can comprehend, so try to learn from them. Wilder has had DOUBLE the fights your pretty boy hero has had, has had to "get up" (motivated) for each one and came out on top each time! Your hyped commercial ready pop star hero has had quadruple the photo shoots with late night classes listening to every word that comes out both Hearns mouths on how to be a prop.

Bonafide champs have to clue your mini brain into thinking how a true champ conducts himself...take note: Muscles & smiling don't automatically make you champ - they help in casting calls. Eddie says AJ runs the show, AJ says Eddie runs the show! Which one is it?! I'll tell you. GREED runs their show. For some time now, they can't put Poshuas FIRST REAL fight together (against a PRIME opponent) because they know it'll affect their income!! Once he loses, the FAKE commercial mystique is GONE and possibly a suicide attempt by you! LEARN from the REAL CHAMPS not who you want to look like....

You Wilder turds make me puke

[tokon]

Gotta agree with the Real Deal. That fight definitely should've been stopped. Fury was given too much time to recover

Fury beat the count. I don't think the ref should have given him those few additional seconds once he was up but I think Holyfield is wrong in saying he shouldn't have even given him the count!

[R_Walken]

Until AJ / Wilder fight and stay unbeaten a case can be made for both as who’s #1 or #2 but really it’s just a opinion and case can be made for both .

Even though Wilder / Fury was a draw and
More people believe Fury won and has the lineal
he still has to be considered #3 , his decision basically to avoid Wilder in a immediate rematch that was conducted in such a way that is at least a dishonest way to conduct business and to many it seems he never wanted a rematch to begin with and is actually running away from a rematch happening anytime in the near future. People shouldn’t reward Fury by the moves he’s made and have him rated above Wilder no matter how you feel about their fight.

AJ is viewed as #1 by almost every fan / media / organizations but also his team hasn’t gone out of their way to face the toughest opponents available more of a steady stream of guys in the top 5-10 , Wilder the last year has been chasing the best of the division and has fought Ortiz / Fury generally regarded as the #3/4 and both fighters including Wilder, AJs team actions have shown they have no interest in fighting any of these 3 regardless of what they may say , Actively chasing the best is something almost no fighter today does and should be given major props. And probably seen as more impressive and rated above beating a long list of what’s considered the 2nd tier HWs who are all rated in the 5-10 range

AJ has the better resume but has more
To do with the fact like Canelo generate so much $ they can offer opponets a higher purse and more
Exposure. other fighters will choose them every time over anyone else in the division , ,’AJ/Canelo can Get any fight they want when they want it . That’s the reason both have at such a young age are able to compile great resumes and AJ was able get those 3 straps so quickly. But Wilder has held his belt longer and is basically in the top 10 longest reigning HW champs in the history of the sport surrounded by nothing but greats. That’s impressive regardless of how you view the quality of most his opponents.

For me it’s AJ #1 , Wilder # 2 Because it’s only been recently he’s gone after the best available , But hes made a serious case to be #1 if things keep going they way they are going

But my opinion doesn’t matter and just hope they fight sooner rather then later, So we’ll be left
With no doubt who’s the man at HW

[Liondw]

Holyfield was a great fighter, an icon, even a legend. I'm not too sure on his assessment of Wilder though, who looked quite amateurish and out of ideas against Fury. He did get the two knockdowns which helped him get a dubious draw, but yes, Joshua looks more polished than Fury and Wilder.