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  • #81
    Originally posted by sportbuddha View Post
    Well, based on the facts, no he wouldn’t. Ortiz for whatever reason hasn’t actually done anything to rank him higher than Stiverne who has at least been a belt holder.
    So your saying stiverne is better than ortiz?

    That's the ******est comment on the internet today. Well done. Give yourself an uppercut.

    You must be extremely desperate to come up with such a ****** comment and take the time to write it down.

    I had a good laugh. though.

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    • #82
      Bummane should see The Nipple can be trash talked into a 3rd ''fight''.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Ajvar View Post
        Oh yeah, even neglecting "boxer is as good as in his last fight" rule you say 5 fights with 3 rd KO each (15 rd total) means worse result than one full 12-rounder, right? I was correct, you can't cure ******ness.
        You can’t cure man’s man love blindness more like. Anything that remotely challenges Wilders paper thin credentials with facts just doesn’t compute.

        Here’s the facts, Stiverne was Wilders second best opponent (after Fury who had spent a year on the sofa until 6months before and came in after a crash diet looking a shadow of his former self).

        Stiverne took him 12 rounds just four years ago, this was the ‘hay day’ of Stiverne in his mid 30s coming off wins against the great (not) Arreola. Basically we’re talking about perhaps the most average world champion of a generation. This guy, was the best person on Wilders resume until very recently.

        He had another go with Wilder two years later and turned up for a pay day and got KO’d in one. Wilder fans whooped and hola’d like he had just conquered a dragon and built up Stiverne like he was some kind of credible opponent.

        Joyce who is utterly limited and slow and has almost a quarter of fights as Wilder also managed a KO, proving that Stiverne is absolutely shot to pieces and considering he was pretty darn crudy in the first place, says a lot.

        Therefore, Wilders one round blow out was hardly impressive in retrospect and you start to wonder, was he all that good against old fatty coke face after all? Actually no he wasn’t, and needed local scoring to keep a belt around his waist.

        All in all what’s this about...Wilders a hyped up one trick pony and as records start to stack up against his own, it’s becoming clear his days are numbered. Fury is gonna box his head off and AJ is gonna take his head off.

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        • #84
          Joy Joyce vs Takam next

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          • #85
            Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
            I actually think Joyce stock took a hit in this fight, just like Munguia's did to me his last fight. Both guys were getting countered over and over with the exact same shot, and were clueless on how to prevent it.

            I hate using the term "exposed" but today, Joyce's awful defense and his "speed" got exposed by a 273lb 40 year old man who hadn't fought in years.
            Exactly right. Amazing he could get this far with such limited skills. It shows how weak the heavy weight division is.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by TheCell8 View Post
              Bermane Stiverne is a big fat bum.

              Might even be a worse HW champion than Charles Martin. At least Martin showed up to fight in respectable shape
              IMO Stiverne can't be a worst heavyweight champ than Charles Martin, still both defended their belt a least one time, not like Fury; who is of course a better boxer; but quit after winning his only world championship bout

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              • #87
                Originally posted by TheCell8 View Post
                Bermane Stiverne is a big fat bum.

                Might even be a worse HW champion than Charles Martin. At least Martin showed up to fight in respectable shape.
                Stiverne actually beat someone for his belt though.....


                but we are comparing D level fighters now.

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                • #88
                  Joyce is like a very poor man's George foreman ,he lacks foreman footwork and speed but man this guy will give any heavyweight problems if his chin can hold up,very educated pressure and an amazing performance considering it's his 8th fight

                  This guy wants to be the heavyweight champ of the world hes not going for bum of the month,this guy believes in himself and that's the way to do this shiz seriously

                  He doesn't care about slowly building a fanbase hes either going to take over the division by getting rid of good fighters or hes gonna get exposed,props for giving the fans fights they actually wanna see and learning the hard way

                  This stuff he put on there is proper 70s style "i take your soul or you take mine" what's not to like?

                  This is the kind of performance youd expect to seem from someone naturally gifted like Joshua and wilder with their power and athleticism putting away smaller men with power and educated pressure

                  This ring general ship is not seen in either of them champions

                  For a big slow guy he knows what hes doing pressure wise unlike the other more gifted guys

                  Wont be surprised when everyone jumps on this train he should stop or be stopped if he goes into every fight like this and he will be a big deal very soon

                  It takes a while for educated pressure fighters to get people behind them,check out ggg for example
                  Last edited by Stuntman Mike; 02-24-2019, 03:30 AM.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by BoxHec View Post
                    IMO Stiverne can't be a worst heavyweight champ than Charles Martin
                    Charles Martin is just not that bad, Kownacki struggled with him. Martin just had very bad night against Joshua.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Guy3008 View Post
                      You're wrong. Stiverne has a great chin. He took Wilder's punches for 12 rounds the first time so Joyce putting him down and getting the stoppage in the 7th is quite impressive even if it's not the prime Stiverne from a few years ago.
                      Y are u referring to the first fight u need to be referring to the second one is it because it last a full round????

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