Comments Thread For: Wilder Still Targets May 18 Return, Fury Remains Primary Goal

[Ake-Dawg]

Arum and Waren see the big picture. Make it 50/50 and a WW matchup with Crawford. Fury simply doesn't need Wilder anymore.

Based on what? Who else can he fight to fulfill the monetary value of the TR contract (which I do not believe to be fully guaranteed).

[factsarenice]

I really doubt he fights Fury on ESPN if this fight goes there. PBC/Showtime would need to win the bid and ESPN would need to allow Fury to fight on that network. Both things that i cannot see happening.

You missed it, Wilder said he's network neutral & so are all of the PBC fighters. Al Haymon is an advisor, not a promoter, he can't force a fighter to a network.

[Straightener]

Arum and Waren see the big picture. Make it 50/50 and a WW matchup with Crawford. Fury simply doesn't need Wilder anymore.

I give warren credit how he’s managed to prise 80mill out of arum

The only big picture I see is they have just delayed the much anticipated rematch which sucks

[Ake-Dawg]

Arum has got to some how make his 80million back in 5 fights

If he plays it to safe he's gonna have a hard time selling fights and if he risks it with Joshua / wilder to soon there's a good chance he gets knocked out early in his contract.

Hopefully the wilder fight still goes ahead . if we here of whyte brezeele getting pulled you know what's coming

I read the below earlier. I doubt the fight happens in May. Maybe September. The September suggestion was from Arum. In short, they want to try and build Fury as a popular US fighter to make the fight bigger and, as many have guessed, the dollar amount of the deal is contingent on Fury fighting both Wilder and Joshua.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/boxing/la-sp-tyson-fury-top-rank-espn-20190218-story.html

DuBoef said Top Rank’s agreement with Fury discusses future fights with Wilder and three-belt heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua, “but there’s a lot more to the Tyson Fury business than just those two fights. We see him as a gem in the rough, just barely been exposed yet in the U.S.”

[factsarenice]

Based on what? Who else can he fight to fulfill the monetary value of the TR contract (which I do not believe to be fully guaranteed).

Wilder's myth has been severely damaged and now that Tyson has a deep pocket network behind him he can fight anyone he wants. Tyson will claim he beat Wilder and play that for all it's worth. Like Wilder, Tyson is also a great self promotes and it doesn't hurt that AJ is (cheap) a hard to negotiate with. With Tyson there's is no downside, even if you lose you'll still receive a good payday and the loss puts you in line with Wilder. It's a no lose proposition for any top 10 heavy weight without a network contract...or basically everyone except AJ..

I never liked Warren but that was a brilliant move.

[Hatesrats]

Bobfather C-Blocked like a bo$$... lol
(Classic SHADY Promoter 101)

[CocoonOfHorror]

Let it go to purse bid.

The problem with a purse bid is that the WBC has no leverage over Fury. So it's a risk for Wilder and a free-roll for Fury and his team.

Purse bid:
If Arum/Warren win, Wilder has to take the fight. If Wilder refuses the fight, the WBC can strip him.
If Haymon wins and Fury refuses to fight on Showtime PPV, what can the WBC do to him? Other than maybe refuse to rank him in the future?

The only leverage I can see on Fury is through fans/media. If it goes to purse bid and Fury refuses the fight and opts for a borefest UD vs Pulev, it looks bad for Fury.

[factsarenice]

I give warren credit how he’s managed to prise 80mill out of arum

The only big picture I see is they have just delayed the much anticipated rematch which sucks

The big picture is that ESPN now has investments in everyone from Crawford to Tyson and they see mega fights in the future. In the short term, I doubt if they'll let anyone just pick off the menu if it's not in their long term interest.

[factsarenice]

The problem with a purse bid is that the WBC has no leverage over Fury. So it's a risk for Wilder and a free-roll for Fury and his team.

Purse bid:
If Arum/Warren win, Wilder has to take the fight. If Wilder refuses the fight, the WBC can strip him.
If Haymon wins and Fury refuses to fight on Showtime PPV, what can the WBC do to him? Other than maybe refuse to rank him in the future?

The only leverage I can see on Fury is through fans/media. If it goes to purse bid and Fury refuses the fight and opts for a borefest UD vs Pulev, it looks bad for Fury.

Worst case... Tyson fights the same exact opponents as Wilder and AJ

[CocoonOfHorror]

You missed it, Wilder said he's network neutral & so are all of the PBC fighters. Al Haymon is an advisor, not a promoter, he can't force a fighter to a network.

While technically true, how many PBC A-sides have fought on another promotion/platform since PBC was established?

Wilder, Spence, Thurman, Mikey Garcia, Danny Garcia, LSC, Hurd, Charlos, Gervonta, etc.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

See a pattern?