This One Isn't On AJ

[boliodogs]

HW ratings.

1. Joshua
2. Wilder (Offered 60/40, turned down 15 mil last year to fight Fury for 7)
3. Fury (Offered 60/40)
4. Whyte (Already beat, Whyte asking for too much for a rematch)
5. Povetkin (Just beat)
6. Miller (Fighting next)

Joshua's competition is fine.

Agreed. His competition is fine and he has defeated more champions and top contenders that Wilder and Fury combined in far fewer pro fights. AJ vs Miller is a good fight and the best fight AJ could take under the circumstances.

[Earl-Hickey]

They turned down career high paydays because they deserved more (at least Wilder and Fury did) and Hearn knows it.

Why else is the April 13th date a bust without them?

Why else is America all of a sudden on the menu?

Seems to me, the discussion- the real talk- is just beginning.

Hopefully, Hearn has been humbled enough to deal straighter next time.

If they want to say that then fine but stop acting like it isn't just about the money.

Don't act like it's for legacy. If they are confident of beating Joshua then it's an investment fight isn't it

It's the same as how Hearn paid Charles Martin WAY more than he was worth to get that fight, in isolation a dumb move but it was an investment.

All of them involved are greedy money grabbers including AJ and Hearn

But Wilder can shut up about one face blah blah. He's almost 34 and an underdog in his next fight. If he loses his chances of ever being more that a single belt holder are virtually gone and he will go down as a guy who won a belt and made one good defence of it.

What sort of legacy is that

[JRB123]

There was no other choice that was available for Joshua.

His objective is to have the undisputed heavyweight championship in the UK. Only Wilder can make that possible, but since he doesn't have the courage to find a pen, Joshua had to look for another option.

Whyte was built over the 2018 year to become a better fighter and build up his resume with matches against Browne, Parker, and Chisora. Not many fighters had that type of schedule.

Ortiz is a myth. He had his chance and blew it by not only refusing to fight Ustinov in 2016 but then signing with Haymon in March 2017. One month later he was scheduled to be tested randomly for a fight but claimed an injury. He subsequently got popped for diuretics. If he was serious about fighting for a title, then he should have chilled out and waited for Joshua's IBF mandatory to be honored.

With that being known, Miller was the best option available.

[4truth]

The greedy princess is lucky to find a fighter of even Miller’s caliber who will fight him.

[koolkc107]

If they want to say that then fine but stop acting like it isn't just about the money.

Don't act like it's for legacy. If they are confident of beating Joshua then it's an investment fight isn't it

It's the same as how Hearn paid Charles Martin WAY more than he was worth to get that fight, in isolation a dumb move but it was an investment.

All of them involved are greedy money grabbers including AJ and Hearn

But Wilder can shut up about one face blah blah. He's almost 34 and an underdog in his next fight. If he loses his chances of ever being more that a single belt holder are virtually gone and he will go down as a guy who won a belt and made one good defence of it.

What sort of legacy is that

You could say the same about AJ.

Why won't he give a more equitable split if he is so certain he is going to win?

And Charles Martin was just careful management, plain and simple.

They overpaid him because he was an accident that ended up with a belt and was likely to lose it against any top 15 heavy he happened to step in with.

But, Martin is a "great champion" to some AJ fans.

It's just a bit much.

Good thing this all should be sorted out by the year's end.

AJ has to fight Wilder or fury THIS year or he risks becoming irrelevant in the division, kinda like Adonis did at light heavy.

[LetOutTheCage]

Sorry but as an AJ fan I am going to be critical, this is not a good fight. Miller has done nothing to warrant this fight, the fat slob has been feasting off of bums.

[Scopedog]

He's made the best of a bad situation honestly, it was either Miller or Whyte. I think Whyte would have been better but not by too much. Obviously it's not ideal but it's just Hearn reaping what he's sown, he could have had a way better fight all the way back in September but we all know how that went. Wilder, Fury et. al. all figured out that while Joshua is the biggest prize in the division, he's not the only one and that they don't need to prostrate themselves before Hearn to continue earning good money and enhancing their profiles, and that Joshua and Hearn can wait until they're ready to negotiate in good faith and a clearer pecking order is established.

[Earl-Hickey]

You could say the same about AJ.

Why won't he give a more equitable split if he is so certain he is going to win?

And Charles Martin was just careful management, plain and simple.

They overpaid him because he was an accident that ended up with a belt and was likely to lose it against any top 15 heavy he happened to step in with.

But, Martin is a "great champion" to some AJ fans.

It's just a bit much.

Good thing this all should be sorted out by the year's end.

AJ has to fight Wilder or fury THIS year or he risks becoming irrelevant in the division, kinda like Adonis did at light heavy.

I haven't me a single AJ fan who has ever said martin was a great champion. That's a bit of bias leaking out of you

[Earl-Hickey]

Agreed. His competition is fine and he has defeated more champions and top contenders that Wilder and Fury combined in far fewer pro fights. AJ vs Miller is a good fight and the best fight AJ could take under the circumstances.

If AJ was 34 like Wilder then you might be able to say his resume was a bit thin

but 29 and 22 fights or whatever, nah he's got a great resume

[Armchairhero]

I haven’t met a single Brit boxing fan other than on the boards who is bothered about AJ not fighting Whyte again.
He could have fought Whyte, miller or Ortiz and he would have got criticised for any of them.

Hopefully the wilder/fury fight has a clear winner so the champ can face the champ