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  • DaNeutral.
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    #61
    Originally posted by Lopez_Boxing
    Youre doing it again. I never spoke from a personal view if Ortiz is a good or bad win. I'm not attacking Aj. I dont know if it is or isn't. Ortiz would have to fight another top guy for me to determine.

    Wald, is a great name to have on the resume. At that point in his career it wasn't a great win. Horn doesn't get much credit for beating pacquiao. Aj shouldn't get too much credit for beating said.

    Look AJ is doing what he is supposed to do. WIN. and for that I give him major props. But I see him for what his fans are scared to admit. He's average. No real talent. Put him in a 6'2 frame I don't think he gets some victories. His size isn't a skill, for AJ it's a blessing.

    Is he more talented than Wilder, no doubt. But I believe i have more boxing talent than wilder.

    I'm not scared of AJ winning. If Aj is the better man I hope he wins. May the best man win. Straight up.. I'm not of AJ winning. You re scared of him losing.

    You see im a Loma fan. I'm not scared of him Losing, he's lost. He didn't lose many fans because wiN or lose his talent is still a thing of beauty to watch.

    Wilders fans dont care if he loses. He's lost. He didnt lose many fans be auss But his extreme power is still a thing of beauty so people will tune in.

    Ajs appeal is his physic and his 0. When he loses he will lose A LOT of fans. Because he's average and he when he loses (everyone loses) no one will care any more because he doesn't bring much else
    I hope he never loses. I hope he becomes the greatest heavyweight of all time and proves me wrong..

    But right now his skill set looks average. Can you admit he looks average?
    No i cant. I get it, you are completely fed up with the Joshua fanboys, who isnt fed up with any fan boys. Im not a fanboy but i am a fan.

    I think Joshua is a solid well rounded fighter who seems to work as hard as he can to be the best he can be so he always learns and always adds to his game. Right now him Fury and Wilder stand apart from the rest of the pack. But for sure i see his flaws and his bad points and i can see how they can be exploited by the likes of Fury and Wilder.

    I think all 3 are a step above the rest. All 3 have very different styles and i can see scenarios where any 3 of them beat any of the 3 of them. I am not a deluded idiot fanboy, Joshua isnt an unstoppable machine or anything like that.

    But this is the division Joshua is in and the opposition is the opposition this division offers, this is the era and Joshua is looking to make as big an impact as possible whist also earning as much money as he can, just like most Boxers. So hes taking his 1st step into America, for his legacy and for money. And Miller seems a decent choice all things considered. If he had picked somebody ranked outside the top 10 or 15 who clearly was not up to much i would complain, i certianly wouldnt buy it. But Miller is an unbeeaten top 10 ranked figher. Thats good enough. Ortiz tougher? Probably.

    So we can moan about the quality of the division or we can enjoy the competitiveness of the division. And by competitive rates Joshua has done damn well so far and nobody has to be a fan of him but the hate we see aimed at him is seriously coming from a very small section of Boxing fans in a big world. Most of America doesnt even believe the crap the LDBC.

    Wilder gets too much hate too from an equally small section of Boxing fans but he himself speaks alot of hate about Joshua and its then that people other than fanboys start to speak up, like me now. Wilder criticizes Joshua alot and most the things he says he is actually far more guilty of himself.

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    • lfc19titles
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      #62
      Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
      stepping up is rather practical when you're a house fighter for Matchroom Boxing. There was another Matchroom figher who was begging Hearn for a rematch with Joshua...so much drama that his contract was changed to per fight stipulations
      Miller saw USA being embarrassed due to wilders duck he has stepped up to fight a monster to save his countries rep. Make no mistake about it

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      • Lopez_Boxing
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        #63
        Originally posted by DaNeutral.
        No i cant. I get it, you are completely fed up with the Joshua fanboys, who isnt fed up with any fan boys. Im not a fanboy but i am a fan.

        I think Joshua is a solid well rounded fighter who seems to work as hard as he can to be the best he can be so he always learns and always adds to his game. Right now him Fury and Wilder stand apart from the rest of the pack. But for sure i see his flaws and his bad points and i can see how they can be exploited by the likes of Fury and Wilder.

        I think all 3 are a step above the rest. All 3 have very different styles and i can see scenarios where any 3 of them beat any of the 3 of them. I am not a deluded idiot fanboy, Joshua isnt an unstoppable machine or anything like that.

        But this is the division Joshua is in and the opposition is the opposition this division offers, this is the era and Joshua is looking to make as big an impact as possible whist also earning as much money as he can, just like most Boxers. So hes taking his 1st step into America, for his legacy and for money. And Miller seems a decent choice all things considered. If he had picked somebody ranked outside the top 10 or 15 who clearly was not up to much i would complain, i certianly wouldnt buy it. But Miller is an unbeeaten top 10 ranked figher. Thats good enough. Ortiz tougher? Probably.

        So we can moan about the quality of the division or we can enjoy the competitiveness of the division. And by competitive rates Joshua has done damn well so far and nobody has to be a fan of him but the hate we see aimed at him is seriously coming from a very small section of Boxing fans in a big world. Most of America doesnt even believe the crap the LDBC.

        Wilder gets too much hate too from an equally small section of Boxing fans but he himself speaks alot of hate about Joshua and its then that people other than fanboys start to speak up, like me now. Wilder criticizes Joshua alot and most the things he says he is actually far more guilty of himself.
        Fair play sir. Now this has turned to a rational sensible conversation. Where we stayed on topic. You have delivered your opinion in a non bias way and I respect it. You didn't reflect or defend "but wilder".

        I can agree with a lot you have said or at least understand your point of view.

        Will you look at that. No name calling or Insulting. Can you imagine that? Much respect my man.

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          #64
          Originally posted by lfc19titles
          Miller saw USA being embarrassed due to wilders duck he has stepped up to fight a monster to save his countries rep. Make no mistake about it
          That’s cool. Americans are more eager for the rematch from the great Wilder Fury fight. Everything will be fine.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Lopez_Boxing
            Fair play sir. Now this has turned to a rational sensible conversation. Where we stayed on topic. You have delivered your opinion in a non bias way and I respect it. You didn't reflect or defend "but wilder".

            I can agree with a lot you have said or at least understand your point of view.

            Will you look at that. No name calling or Insulting. Can you imagine that? Much respect my man.
            Fair play back. We dont have to agree on everything, hell we dont have to agree on anything but i certainly see now where your coming from. Your right, saild calmly and kept on point its took no time at all to get 2 solid points of view. Maybe i should try it more often.

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              #66
              Originally posted by lfc19titles
              Miller saw USA being embarrassed due to wilders duck he has stepped up to fight a monster to save his countries rep. Make no mistake about it
              you do realize most fighters in the US dont give a **** about repping their country. Its more like repping their states , city, and race before they rep this country especially black fighters.

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              • Lopez_Boxing
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                #67
                Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                Fair play back. We dont have to agree on everything, hell we dont have to agree on anything but i certainly see now where your coming from. Your right, saild calmly and kept on point its took no time at all to get 2 solid points of view. Maybe i should try it more often.
                Lol not everyone is as reasonable as you and me. But let's try and to give them the benefit of the doubt. Props bro

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                • j0zef
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                  #68
                  Let's not get carried away. Miller is a solid challenge, another top5 contender that Joshua will fight, but Miller's getting paid for this fight. He's the absolute unknown with no leverage. 7M is no joke to him, it likely eclipses his career winnings (MMA+Boxing) so far.

                  It's a good fight, but Miller doesn't deserve any 'props' for stepping for US.

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                  • 15 Rounds again
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                    LOL. Wilders whole career has been built on soft touches, you seem to keep drawing a line in the sand just as Joshua gets there, its been fine for thousands of fighters over many dacades but its stops just before Joshua? Very convenient for Joshua haters.

                    You clearly are not thinking with a level head here, you are writing up massive double standards, You are saying Joshua should not be allowed to do what has been the norm in this sport for decades.

                    Just be honest, you just desperately want to see Joshua lose and the tougher the fight the more chance of you getting your wish and when he didnt pick Ortiz, which is the ONLY thing you want, you spit your dummy out and have a tantrum about it because the weaker the opposition the lower the chance you get what you want which is to see AJ lose.
                    It's hard for Joshua to fight Wilder when Wilder wont answer the phone lol.
                    He will fight anyone but Wilder asking for 50/50 makes about as .uch sense as McGregor asking Mayweather for 50/50.

                    Mayweather was the bigger draw in all his fights and rightfully demanded the lion's share of the purse. But it's not ok for AJ to do that, he needs to give this skinny ass basketball American hype job a ****** split or mr.one name one face ain't interested.
                    Last edited by 15 Rounds again; 02-15-2019, 07:40 AM.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Michael1437
                      I just want to know how anyone can say that Wilder is ducking anyone, the guy fought Fury, who is an undefeated champion, who also beat Wlad before Joshua did. They had a close fight, whether you think Fury won or Wilder won, they are doing it again, which makes sense, how is that any sign of a duck?
                      Here's why everyone with eyes in their head sees Wilder as the ducking coward he is.

                      You see, for years he shouted from the rooftops about one name one face, and when that sh@*t gets real he makes excuse after excuse. Many US based boxing channels have turned on him. He is all mouth. He was beaten by Fury too.

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