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  • Lopez_Boxing
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    #41
    Originally posted by DaNeutral.
    So all those arguments people been saying about Miller is fine but when they say it about Ortiz is just ducking noise. Im not calling Ortiz a bum im just not calling him a Boogeyman or monster either. But it sounds to me like you are saying Ortiz is better than anybody on Joshua's resume. Which to me sounds ridiculous.
    No not saying that at all.. I have no idea because Ortiz is unproven. What I am asking is this, who is the highest ranked opponent out of these 3

    Whyte
    Ortiz
    Miller

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      #42
      Originally posted by jglvz256
      Are you arguing with yourself? This is literally what you have been saying the whole time in this thread.
      That's what's up

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        #43
        Originally posted by Lopez_Boxing
        No not saying that at all.. I have no idea because Ortiz is unproven. What I am asking is this, who is the highest ranked opponent out of these 3

        Whyte
        Ortiz
        Miller
        Boxrec has it Whyte(#4), Miller(#6), Ortiz(#8).

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          #44
          Originally posted by jglvz256
          Boxrec has it Whyte(#4), Miller(#6), Ortiz(#8).
          Then whyte DESERVES the shot. Simple. What better way to get to ONE champion other than having 1-4 battle it out?

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            #45
            Originally posted by Lopez_Boxing
            IMon

            AJ just had an easy fight wayyyyy back in September. Wilder is fighting Ortiz, fury, fury. A tougher 3 oppents in a row than Aj has had. You weren't saying wilder deserves a soft touch.

            Miller isn't ranked higher. So yeah Ortiz or whyte DESERVE it more than miller

            No, I'm pretty sure wilder cans been hyping up Ortiz after most called wilder would duck him. Because Ortiz would no wilder, but Instead wilder koed Ortiz. THAT'S when wilder fans hyped the Ortiz victory
            No way you just called Povetkin easy! Dude was #3 in the division before AJ beat him. Man, this revisionist history lmaooo

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              #46
              Originally posted by Lopez_Boxing
              No not saying that at all.. I have no idea because Ortiz is unproven. What I am asking is this, who is the highest ranked opponent out of these 3

              Whyte
              Ortiz
              Miller
              Unproven? The mans close to the end of his career. Hes had 30 fights hes been a pro nearly aslong as Wilder and was a very well known Amateur for years before that. We know exactly what Ortiz does and brings. Like i said its a decent fight there is nothing wrong with it.

              I would put your little list in the order you put it in but thats what mandatorys are for. He isnt fighting an unknown bum, there is only Wilder fans complaining at Miller, we all agree its not the toughest fight he could of picked but its a good business choice.

              And to be honest as much as Whyte is the most worthy it loses alot of shine considering that we all saw Joshua knock Whyte out cold in a fight he was comfortably ahead on the cards in once already.
              Last edited by DaNeutral.; 02-13-2019, 04:17 PM.

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                #47
                Originally posted by rolshans
                No way you just called Povetkin easy! Dude was #3 in the division before AJ beat him. Man, this revisionist history lmaooo
                "Laugh my a@s off off off " makes no sense bro. The letters stand for something.

                Povetkin a 6'2 228lbs 39 year old man. Right. Him being number 3 just goes to show how tough the HW division ISN'T. it wasn't a tough fight if we are being real. But I forgot what happens when you talk Aj.. I'm foolish. I won't be comenting again. May AJ Bless you

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                  Unproven? The mans close to the end of his career. Hes had 30 fights hes been a pro nearly aslong as Wilder and was a very well known Amateur for years before that. We know exactly what Ortiz does and brings. Like i said its a decent fight there is nothing wrong with it.

                  I would put your little list in the order you put it in but thats what mandatorys are for. He isnt fighting an unknown bum, there is only Wilder fans complaining at Miller, we all agree its not the toughest fight he could of picked but its a good business choice.

                  And to be honest as much as Whyte is the most worthy it loses alot of shine considering that we all saw Joshua knock Whyte out cold in a fight he was comfortably ahead on the cards in once already.
                  That's what's up

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Lopez_Boxing
                    That's what's up
                    So what you saying? It should be Ortiz or Whyte, the 2 most deserving of the entire division? Anything less and its a problem? A voluntary fight and its a top 10 ranked unbeaten contender but its a problem?

                    You give Wilder pass every time he has done it? You dont think his resume is Fury and Ortiz 41 times do you? Or did you have a problem when he did it too? What about any other champion ever who would of gone for a business choice? Cuz thats happened thousands of times in this sport you know, its quite a normal thing to do.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                      So what you saying? It should be Ortiz or Whyte, the 2 most deserving of the entire division? Anything less and its a problem? A voluntary fight and its a top 10 ranked unbeaten contender but its a problem?

                      You give Wilder pass every time he has done it? You dont think his resume is Fury and Ortiz 41 times do you? Or did you have a problem when he did it too? What about any other champion ever who would of gone for a business choice? Cuz thats happened thousands of times in this sport you know, its quite a normal thing to do.
                      Lol of you're praising "business choices" then wilder soft touching his way to the top should get high praise from you.

                      Oh, you don't like business choices now? Is there a limit? Wouldn't whyte in England be a better business choice? Wouldn't Ortiz a common opponent that almost koed wilder be a better bus is choice?
                      It's clear you will flip flop to cram this square conversation into the circle opening.

                      Around here NO ONE gets soft touches any more and Aj shouldn't be an exception. Business choices, soft touch what ever you want to label your excuse for your favorite fighter getting off easy.

                      My favorite fighter is Loma. And I say put the best in front of him. I would NEVER say give him a soft touch, business choices. I believe in him. That's why I am a fan. Ajs fans don't seem to believe in him. They believe in business. I believe in boxing.

                      Respect

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