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  • Sid-Knee
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    #111
    Originally posted by filup79
    The UK finally has something to brag about? Come on I could careless about that division, that division at the moment is garbage. The best the UK ever had was Lewis, every other fighter from the UK was domestic level champs, they want a title and ended up losing as soon as they step up to someone who wasn't a euro bum.
    Every British fighter who became champ was domestic level?

    Your bitterness and delusion allows you to make a complete tit of yourself on the regular on here. You should be ashamed.

    Track all our champs over the last 40 years and see the quality fighters they have beaten. Most of the time, we have beaten the American. Try and say otherwise, i'll give you the schooling you so richly deserve.

    But please do tell who these British fighters were who only beat Euro bums but went on the fail on the world stage? When you give me names, i'll correct you on most of them. Then i'll give you all the yanks who did even less.

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      #112
      Originally posted by KTFOKING
      So if Joshua gets offered 50M for the fight to take place on SHO PPV, how will his team be able to explain turning down that offer?
      50 Million is not a lot to Joshua which he can make in two fights to give up home field advantage .Hearn not going to let them.dictate things , how do guys not understand this ? Besides that it's a two way rematch fight so they can do a Dazn fight and then Showtime. In the end its what Joshua decides as far as splits and where he wants it , that's the way the cookie crumbles, if Wilder don't like it he can go kick rocks .

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      • SeGoodland
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        #113
        Originally posted by BennyBlanco
        Nice to hear from you, Eddie. Or is that Frank Smith?

        The $50M was guaranteed. Eddie knows that and AJ knows that. It had nothing to do with BT Sport or Frank Warren. He had no part of the deal.

        In fact, the contract that Wilder sent to AJ said the fight would be on SKY PPV in the UK - so everything you're spouting is just Hearn excuses and misinformation.
        Show me evidence then kiddo because you sound like like old fish eyes

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          #114
          Originally posted by REDEEMER
          50 Million is not a lot to Joshua which he can make in two fights to give up home field advantage .Hearn not going to let them.dictate things , how do guys not understand this ? Besides that it's a two way rematch fight so they can do a Dazn fight and then Showtime. In the end its what Joshua decides as far as splits and where he wants it , that's the way the cookie crumbles, if Wilder don't like it he can go kick rocks .
          The whole premise is if the fight takes place stateside. Not about any two way rematch. I already said if it happens in the UK then it is possible DAZN airs it live and SHO can air the replay. And it's not just what Joshua decides. The winner of Wilder/Fury aren't settling for less than 50/50. Anyone that gets a 50/50 split will have their fair say in negotiations.

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          • Manlikefemi
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            #115
            Originally posted by kafkod
            If Wilder gets lucky and beats Fury, he can expect an offer of some crazy amount of money, almost certainly more than $50million, from Hearn/DAZN.

            After all the **** Wilder and his team talked in the media about AJ "ducking" a guaranteed $50million, how would they explain turning down an even greater amount themselves, even if they wanted to turn it down?
            You don’t make sense, PPV is unlimited money, DAZN is limited by a flat fee.

            Hearn has just come out and said Joshua v Wilder does 1M US PPV Buys. He’s clearly talking about US PPV, which means the fight WILL go on SHO PPV.

            Wilder and his team will get a EQUAL say on US TV Rights. For example Joshua won’t be able to decide both UK and US TV Rights.

            He will have to give up one, and that will be US Rights because he has a live contract with Sky and not DAZN

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            • kafkod
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              #116
              Originally posted by Manlikefemi
              You don’t make sense, PPV is unlimited money, DAZN is limited by a flat fee.

              Hearn has just come out and said Joshua v Wilder does 1M US PPV Buys. He’s clearly talking about US PPV, which means the fight WILL go on SHO PPV.

              Wilder and his team will get a EQUAL say on US TV Rights. For example Joshua won’t be able to decide both UK and US TV Rights.

              He will have to give up one, and that will be US Rights because he has a live contract with Sky and not DAZN
              You're the one who isn't making sense, PPV is not unlimited money. The money is limited by the number of PPVs sold.

              Tyson Fury asked Hearn for a guaranteed flat fee offer to fight AJ, not a cut of the PPV, because he wanted to be sure of getting what he thought he deserved.

              Hearn isn't saying AJ/Wilder would be on PPV in the US, he's talking about how much he thinks it would sell if it was on PPV.

              DAZN are paying AJ over $30million to fight Miller, and I've been seeing unconfirmed reports that Miller is getting $7million. That fight isn't PPV, and I'm sure DAZN will lose a lot of money on it, but it's worth more to them as a long term investment in AJ's future fights.

              DAZN are a global platform. They have millions of subscribers all over the world and would attract millions more with an undisputed world HW title fight between 2 undefeated champions.

              DAZN, Sky and Matchroom together would offer Wilder a guaranteed purse that would be more than he would get for a 50/50 split of 1million US PPVs.

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              • Manlikefemi
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                #117
                Originally posted by kafkod
                You're the one who isn't making sense, PPV is not unlimited money. The money is limited by the number of PPVs sold.

                Tyson Fury asked Hearn for a guaranteed flat fee offer to fight AJ, not a cut of the PPV, because he wanted to be sure of getting what he thought he deserved.

                Hearn isn't saying AJ/Wilder would be on PPV in the US, he's talking about how much he thinks it would sell if it was on PPV.

                DAZN are paying AJ over $30million to fight Miller, and I've been seeing unconfirmed reports that Miller is getting $7million. That fight isn't PPV, and I'm sure DAZN will lose a lot of money on it, but it's worth more to them as a long term investment in AJ's future fights.

                DAZN are a global platform. They have millions of subscribers all over the world and would attract millions more with an undisputed world HW title fight between 2 undefeated champions.

                DAZN, Sky and Matchroom together would offer Wilder a guaranteed purse that would be more than he would get for a 50/50 split of 1million US PPVs.
                PPV’s are unlimited. How do you know the fight won’t do 2M+ ? Will DAZN guarantee $100M ?


                DAZN are a niche platform, i may change my Statement after Canelo-Jacobs and Joshua-Miller. But i don’t think the parties involved will have the confidence in then to get the numbers needed (audience) to make it a big fight.

                When you have a proven network (Showtime owned by CBS) who can guarantee visibility.

                And again your underestimating Al Haymon. He got 50M out of nowhere because that’s what the fight was worth at the time (September 2018)

                Now approaching 12 Months on. That fight could be worth 100-150M. They can find that money if they believe they’ll get a return on investment from Wilder.

                FURY still gets a %. Flat fees are safety nets if the fight bombs.

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                • kafkod
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Manlikefemi
                  PPV’s are unlimited. How do you know the fight won’t do 2M+ ? Will DAZN guarantee $100M ?


                  DAZN are a niche platform, i may change my Statement after Canelo-Jacobs and Joshua-Miller. But i don’t think the parties involved will have the confidence in then to get the numbers needed (audience) to make it a big fight.

                  When you have a proven network (Showtime owned by CBS) who can guarantee visibility.

                  And again your underestimating Al Haymon. He got 50M out of nowhere because that’s what the fight was worth at the time (September 2018)

                  Now approaching 12 Months on. That fight could be worth 100-150M. They can find that money if they believe they’ll get a return on investment from Wilder.

                  FURY still gets a %. Flat fees are safety nets if the fight bombs.
                  Yes .. the fight could sell 2million+ PPVs this year, and DAZN could offer Wilder a $200million guaranteed purse.

                  Meanwhile, back on planet earth ...
                  Last edited by kafkod; 02-08-2019, 08:48 PM.

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                  • kafkod
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Manlikefemi
                    PPV’s are unlimited. How do you know the fight won’t do 2M+ ? Will DAZN guarantee $100M ?


                    DAZN are a niche platform, i may change my Statement after Canelo-Jacobs and Joshua-Miller. But i don’t think the parties involved will have the confidence in then to get the numbers needed (audience) to make it a big fight.

                    When you have a proven network (Showtime owned by CBS) who can guarantee visibility.

                    And again your underestimating Al Haymon. He got 50M out of nowhere because that’s what the fight was worth at the time (September 2018)

                    Now approaching 12 Months on. That fight could be worth 100-150M. They can find that money if they believe they’ll get a return on investment from Wilder.

                    FURY still gets a %. Flat fees are safety nets if the fight bombs.
                    DAZN is a niche in the USA because it's only just launched there. But it's a worldwide platform with millions of subscribers in other countries all over the planet.

                    And Fury did ask for a flat fee offer from Hearn. It may not suit your agenda, but reality is sometimes like that.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Calibaloc
                      Wilder couldn't have robbed Fury when he was the Champion when they fought and put him down twice with the second knockdown almost killing him. You can't win the belt by almost being killed by the champ holding it. These comments make you guys sound like idiots.
                      almost killed him you on meth fury got up not even dazed then slapped him silly no one was nearly dead you absolute idiot wilder got whooped guessing your black a few use deluded lot are only morons who beleive wilder was in that fight through the colour of his skin perfetic

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