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  • kafkod
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    #101
    Originally posted by Manlikefemi
    AJ/Wilder is going to be 50/50. Wilder and Haymon are going to demand control of US TV Rights. UK TV Rights are not important as Sky is the best place to maximise revenue

    However DAZN will significantly reduce the visibility of Joshua v Wilder in the US.

    Haymon is not ******, Wilder is not a DAZN/Hearn fighter he don’t owe DAZN nothing. Showtime is Wilder’s Partner and Deontay and Haymon both have loyalty to Showtime.

    Fight ain’t happening unless it has Showtime involvement. Wilder and Showtime could easily sign legal paper together, they just don’t because that’s the US Way of doing buisness and allowing PBC the flexibility to move their fighters around FOX, CBS, NBC etc

    If Wilder-Joshua takes place in the US-it’s a SHO PPV

    If Joshua-Wilder takes place in the UK- DAZN will probably get live rights, but Showtime will get Highlights.
    If Wilder gets lucky and beats Fury, he can expect an offer of some crazy amount of money, almost certainly more than $50million, from Hearn/DAZN.

    After all the **** Wilder and his team talked in the media about AJ "ducking" a guaranteed $50million, how would they explain turning down an even greater amount themselves, even if they wanted to turn it down?
    Last edited by kafkod; 02-07-2019, 05:36 PM.

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      #102
      Originally posted by kafkod
      If Wilder gets lucky and beats Fury, he can expect an offer of some crazy amount of money, almost certainly more than $50million, from Hearn/DAZN.

      After all the **** Wilder and his team talked in the media about AJ "ducking" a guaranteed $50million, how would they explain turning down an even greater amount themselves, even if they wanted to turn it down?
      So if Joshua gets offered 50M for the fight to take place on SHO PPV, how will his team be able to explain turning down that offer?

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        #103
        Originally posted by KTFOKING
        So if Joshua gets offered 50M for the fight to take place on SHO PPV, how will his team be able to explain turning down that offer?
        They wouldn't just turn it down, they would counter it with an even bigger offer. DAZN have deeper pockets than ST, and they have already demonstrated that they are willing to dig deep and lose money, in the short term.

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          #104
          Originally posted by kafkod
          They wouldn't just turn it down, they would counter it with an even bigger offer. DAZN have deeper pockets than ST, and they have already demonstrated that they are willing to dig deep and lose money, in the short term.
          When it involves PPVs, the deeper pockets argument goes to the wayside. PPVs become pretty much all upside from how much revenue is generated. So let's say Wilder does get 50M like you said, and Joshua gets the same. Is DAZN putting up 100M for the fight? Will they then take a piece of the UK revenue, sponsorship money, live gate etc to recoup some of their money put on the fight?

          And would you say Wilder is PBC's biggest star right now? Obviously not best fighter, but biggest star? If so, you think they will just want him fighting on another network outside one of theirs.....in the biggest fight in boxing? Do you really see that happening? And from nothing Hearn has said implies the fight can't be on PPV. He mentioned that as a possibly a month or so ago.

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            #105
            When is the last time an American PPV did over 1 million buys when it didn't involve Mayweather, Pacquiao(?), or a Mexican fighter? The 1990s when Mike Tyson was still relevant?

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              #106
              Originally posted by chaosisme
              When is the last time an American PPV did over 1 million buys when it didn't involve Mayweather, Pacquiao(?), or a Mexican fighter? The 1990s when Mike Tyson was still relevant?
              Well, I mean look at what you just eliminated by saying any PPV not including Pacquiao/Mayweather/Canelo/DLH.

              In that case, yes, you would have to go back to Tyson.

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                #107
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                I said Wilder is only getting hype because he's American.

                You want to start insulting countries? The divisions of kings is HW. The HW #1 is the king of boxing. The US hasn't had a #1 for a VERY long time. The UK has had 3 since the US last had 1. 3 of the top 4 rated fighters right now are from the UK. This is why you're all in on Wilder even though you know Fury beat him, you're willing ignore it and carry on with your BS. Desperate to finally be back on top.
                The UK finally has something to brag about? Come on I could careless about that division, that division at the moment is garbage. The best the UK ever had was Lewis, every other fighter from the UK was domestic level champs, they want a title and ended up losing as soon as they step up to someone who wasn't a euro bum.

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                  #108
                  Wilder is definitely increasing his profile in the U.S. With these PPV events; Especially among the casual fan. So if AJ could generate at least 300,000 buys in his first pay per view event in the U.S. With Jarrell Miller then I can easily envision a minimum of at least a 1mil pay per view buys for the Joshua/Wilder bout in America.

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                    #109
                    Joshua and Hearn has finally seen the light. A fight of this magnitude belongs in the states; Not in the U.K. Wilder would soon have the home soil advantage after all.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by KTFOKING
                      When it involves PPVs, the deeper pockets argument goes to the wayside. PPVs become pretty much all upside from how much revenue is generated. So let's say Wilder does get 50M like you said, and Joshua gets the same. Is DAZN putting up 100M for the fight? Will they then take a piece of the UK revenue, sponsorship money, live gate etc to recoup some of their money put on the fight?

                      And would you say Wilder is PBC's biggest star right now? Obviously not best fighter, but biggest star? If so, you think they will just want him fighting on another network outside one of theirs.....in the biggest fight in boxing? Do you really see that happening? And from nothing Hearn has said implies the fight can't be on PPV. He mentioned that as a possibly a month or so ago.
                      They might get an offer they can't refuse.

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