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Ward better stay in retirement. KING KOV might kill someone unifying the titles!!!

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  • #11
    Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs View Post
    Realistically Gvozdyk, after Adonis, could psychology destroy Kovalev. Gvozdyk like Bivol and Beterbiev are all heavy handed. The 34 year old Alvarez imo is a taster for bad dudes who are going to seriously hurt Kovalev. It’s a good Division, and Kovalev is the weakest Champion having been KO’d twice in recent years.
    Gvozdyk is a good fighter and he did really well against Stevenson but he'd have much more difficulty with a fighter like Kovalev. Stevenson isn't as sharp as Kovalev and Kovalev is much technically better than Stevenson....not to mention rangier, younger and taller. Kovalev is also a much better combination puncher. Gvozdyk's best shot at beating Kovalev is to make him work hard, tire him out and then try to take him or beat him up enough to win on points. That's a possible scenario but it's much harder than it appears and there will be danger throughout the fight for Gvozdyk...This is not a gimme fight for either guy. Kov can compete with the best in the division, even at this stage of his somewhat advanced boxing age.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Damn Wicked View Post
      Gvozdyk is a good fighter and he did really well against Stevenson but he'd have much more difficulty with a fighter like Kovalev. Stevenson isn't as sharp as Kovalev and Kovalev is much technically better than Stevenson....not to mention rangier, younger and taller. Kovalev is also a much better combination puncher. Gvozdyk's best shot at beating Kovalev is to make him work hard, tire him out and then try to take him or beat him up enough to win on points. That's a possible scenario but it's much harder than it appears and there will be danger throughout the fight for Gvozdyk...This is not a gimme fight for either guy. Kov can compete with the best in the division, even at this stage of his somewhat advanced boxing age.
      Just saying Kovalev wasn’t great in the rematch. He did what he had to do to outpoint Alvarez but it wasn’t a schooling. I’d say the weakest from all is Beterbiev. Though Beterbiev has a strong jab as Alvarez and same age. Gvozdyk and Bivol have the younger freshness to outpoint and tire Kova at this stage in his career. Beterbiev would be a good fight to watch. Any smart body shots from Bivol and Beterbiev to Kova and Sergey has problems. Gvozdyk got a mean straight right, more more elegant than Alvarez.

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      • #13
        Stop mentioning a retired fighter, makes you sound pathetic.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs View Post
          Just saying Kovalev wasn’t great in the rematch. He did what he had to do to outpoint Alvarez but it wasn’t a schooling. I’d say the weakest from all is Beterbiev. Though Beterbiev has a strong jab as Alvarez and same age. Gvozdyk and Bivol have the younger freshness to outpoint and tire Kova at this stage in his career. Beterbiev would be a good fight to watch. Any smart body shots from Bivol and Beterbiev to Kova and Sergey has problems. Gvozdyk got a mean straight right, more more elegant than Alvarez.
          Yeah, I tend to agree with you about Bivol and Gvozdyk being better than Beterbiev...They have better foot speed and movement. Faster hands too. Beterbiev is powerful but I Kovalev's boxing ability would be a big advantage in a fight with Artur. I agree with you that Gvozdyk and Bivol have the youth and freshness/speed to make it a tough fight for Kovalev...Gvozdyk seems especially good in the stamina department..and that could be a bad thing for Kovalev. But it won't be as easy as we might expect for those guys. Also, Bivol seems a bit small for the lightheavyweight division and he talks about going to fight at Super-Middleweight. He's mentioned that he could easily make weight to fight in that division.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Damn Wicked View Post
            Yeah, I tend to agree with you about Bivol and Gvozdyk being better than Beterbiev...They have better foot speed and movement. Faster hands too. Beterbiev is powerful but I Kovalev's boxing ability would be a big advantage in a fight with Artur. I agree with you that Gvozdyk and Bivol have the youth and freshness/speed to make it a tough fight for Kovalev...Gvozdyk seems especially good in the stamina department..and that could be a bad thing for Kovalev. But it won't be as easy as we might expect for those guys. Also, Bivol seems a bit small for the lightheavyweight division and he talks about going to fight at Super-Middleweight. He's mentioned that he could easily make weight to fight in that division.
            When I meant “weakest” for Beterbiev I wasn’t being literal regarding power. I meant the one who could possible lose with style. It’s hard to know, but we could be dead wrong, Beterbiev beat Kovalev in the amateurs, and I’ll just assess that Beterbiev could break down Kovalev easily as well. Remember when Beterbiev fought Johnson years ago? Johnson was a vet, lots of experience with pro fighters, was a Southpaw, quick with footwork like Kovalev and as big as Álvarez, so we shouldn’t for one minute count out Beterbiev in seriously destroying Kovalev. For instance Beterbiev could possibly stop Kovalev on the ropes and from all the 175 Champs Beterbiev is the most heavy handed.

            I think Gvozdyk would pick Kovalev down with his straight right same he did to Stevenson in seeing mistakes and openings, we all say how Alvarez got to Kova down the middle. Bivol, looks chiseled like a Thurman at 147, lighter than the other 147 elites, but both are heavy handed. Bivol just means he can drain to 168 if need be to get a big fight, and that doesn’t mean he would perform as good as he does at 175. Bivol comes from the Shumenov type Kazakh Russians, thin and chiseled, but power.

            Kovalev doesn’t have any easy unification fights.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs View Post
              When I meant “weakest” for Beterbiev I wasn’t being literal regarding power. I meant the one who could possible lose with style. It’s hard to know, but we could be dead wrong, Beterbiev beat Kovalev in the amateurs, and I’ll just assess that Beterbiev could break down Kovalev easily as well. Remember when Beterbiev fought Johnson years ago? Johnson was a vet, lots of experience with pro fighters, was a Southpaw, quick with footwork like Kovalev and as big as Álvarez, so we shouldn’t for one minute count out Beterbiev in seriously destroying Kovalev. For instance Beterbiev could possibly stop Kovalev on the ropes and from all the 175 Champs Beterbiev is the most heavy handed.

              I think Gvozdyk would pick Kovalev down with his straight right same he did to Stevenson in seeing mistakes and openings, we all say how Alvarez got to Kova down the middle. Bivol, looks chiseled like a Thurman at 147, lighter than the other 147 elites, but both are heavy handed. Bivol just means he can drain to 168 if need be to get a big fight, and that doesn’t mean he would perform as good as he does at 175. Bivol comes from the Shumenov type Kazakh Russians, thin and chiseled, but power.

              Kovalev doesn’t have any easy unification fights.
              Oh for sure. No fight is a given. There's all sorts of ways these fights can play out. Even if they fought each other 10 times we would likely get many different results. I don't assume any certainties. The saying, " That's why they make the fights", is very fitting.....We can never know,...until they fight. It's interesting trying to use our best assessment to predict the outcomes though.

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              • #17
                Ward would beat the **** out of kovolev again

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                • #18
                  Yall a trip....Yall actually painted the picture Ward retired to avoid 3rd fight with Ward...When dude never had to fight him in the first place...Rememberhow yall said he wud never in the first place...Now dude retired and u cant keep his name outcho mouth

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                  • #19
                    This is a bit much, there’s plenty of talent at 175 tho...maybe why ward decided to retire in his prime, and the reason he probably isn’t coming back. If ward was to come back, it would be for a lucrative legacy type fight, not some rerun of fights that flopped on ppv.

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                    • #20
                      This is becoming like Pacquiao fans re: Mayweather, all over again.

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