Comments Thread For: Kovalev: The Last Fight Alvarez Got Lucky, I'll Prove I'm Better

[pillowfists98]

Kovalev is the better boxer. If he paces himself he'll win. He wasted a lot of energy trying to KO Alvarez the first time. He won't make that mistake again.

[MeanestNiceGuy]

Anyone saying Ward 'thrashed' anything, besides his little TRex arms in survival mode, in the first fight is a grade A sub 80 IQ special, or a troll. Which are you lol?

Cho ass up.

[Disturbed]

Yeah, we'll see about that. Anything can happen in combat sports, that's for sure but Kovalev just isn't what he used to be

[Superbee]

Kovalev is the better boxer. If he paces himself he'll win. He wasted a lot of energy trying to KO Alvarez the first time. He won't make that mistake again.

He wasted energy against the last 3 guys with a pulse he faced... Gassed out against Chilemba, gassed out against Ward, gassed out against Alvarez... Seems like he gets into panic mode every time he's pushed a bit and loses his game trying to hard... I don't think he can solve that TBH...

[Boxing-1013]

Maybe it’s u who can’t analyze things correctly as it pertains to Ward. Not sure your aware of this but boxing isn’t measured solely on punch count.


So while u continue to attempt to marginalize Wards two victories against Kov, fact of the matter is Kovalev hasn’t been the same since the first Ward fight. But prior to that, he was indestructible, so what does that tell u ?

What that should tell u is that Wards style of fighting is kinda “stealth” as he’s a feet-first throw back type of fighter. Meaning, that the damage and attrition that he puts on a fighter is a VERY HEAVY one, but is not all that visible to the untrained eye.

So maybe the refs did get it right, and maybe they’re trained to see what u don’t, cause clearly Ward did enough to this seemingly indestructible force, to turn him into puddy the 2nd fight.

Fighters were rarely ever the same after fighting Ward, hence his greatness !

Dude no offense, but you can't even spell or use correct grammar. Why would I care at all about what you have to say? And why in the world would anyone think you are better at analyzing anything than me? You can't even spell and don't know 5th grade grammar rules bro. Read a book and start listening to people smarter than you.

And Lol about guys not being the same after Ward - he is a tough smart gritty fighter, I give him credit for that. But he was always the home fighter and grinded his way to unimpressive decisions in close fights against any good fighter he faced. If he was not as protected he would have a few Ls on his resume and a few DQs as well. Just the way it is. There are a lot of great black boxers Ward just wasn't one of them.

Kov wasn't the same after the first Ward fight but I think that is more of a result of his putting so much effort to win that fight, the pinnacle of his career, and he got robbed. I don't think he has reacted well mentally since then, but it is what it is. More of a victim of his bad luck and bad mentality than any damage Ward did. Besides Ward was still getting pretty cleanly outboxed (5-2) before the stoppage, which as you know, was certainly controversial as Ward went low at least a few times.

And you Ward 'fans' 'stans' have got to start doing some actual research!! Lol. The only top fighters Ward has faced in his career are Kov, Dawson, Froch and Kessler. Kessler and Froch were the same fighters after Ward, only caveat being Kessler suffering the damage to his eye from the headbutts from Ward. But the next fight Kessler faced Froch and won. And Froch never lost after his loss to Ward? lol

And we all know Ward drained Dawson and straight up refused to negotiate on weight, even as Dawson was pleading with him because he couldn't make 168. Dawson was passing out trying to make weight and getting KOd in sparring. He was basically done before that fight and pretty clear that the seven fights he had with Pascal, Tarver, Hopkins and Johnson took a lot out of him as well. As was mentioned before Kov is basically the same fighter, he just never recovered mentally from the robbery imo. Just the way life is sometimes though and he should get over it, but again his slight decline has zero to do with Ward's actual talent as a fighter.

And anyone who co-signs that robbery in the first fight, as you appeared to do in your post, should not be taken seriously on boxing. You are clearly biased so talking boxing with you is waste of time. By the way, I encourage you to take 30 minutes and do some real research on Ward, and then compare it to other fighters of this generation who you probably dislike. Ward has sued his manager 3 times (lost all 3), dropped belts rather than face someone, avoided lucrative matches against Froch and Bute in their home countries. I also encourage you to watch his fights against Bika and Barrera and see if you can justify those performances as dominant ones in which Ward should have won 10-12 rounds. Best of luck to you in your endeavors.

[Roadblock]

Alvarez won to systematically last time, he has Kovs number.

[Boxing-1013]

Cho ass up.

You have a sub 80 IQ. Your opinion is irrelevant on anything. Read a book.

[Boxing-1013]

1. I'm not English.
2. Your connect percentage argument would be fine and dandy if ward didn't outland kovalev in 6 rounds.
3. How the *** was it closer to being 6-0 than 4-2???
Rd1 kovalev landed 7/34 (20%)
Ward landed 5/20 (25%)

Rd 3 kov landed 4/27 (15%)
Ward landed 5/22 (23%

Rd 4 kov landed 9/37 (24%)
Ward landed 7/25 (28%)

Rd 5 kov landed 7/33 (21%)
Ward landed 8/24 (33%)

Rd 6 kov landed 9/36 (25%)
Ward landed 8/25 (32%)
That's 5 "somewhat close" rounds wouldn't u say?
By those numbers kovalev is clearly 5-1 up!!!!!!!
Ward is certainly "getting his ass stomped".

Compubox numbers usually reinforce what I see. But not always. The first six rounds were not close. Watch the fight again without sound if you need to. I don't know what pitty pat shots they gave Ward credit for and what they did or did not give Kovalev credit for.

But almost everyone, even nutjobs who have Ward winning, agree Kov was winning clearly over the first 6 rounds. Some try, ridiculously, to give him 2 of those rounds. You said he won 4. You are not a serious person.

But how did you score the second fight before the stoppage? Considering Kov won 6/7 on punch stats, I assume you had Ward up 6-1? Lol

[Squ□redCircle34]

Damn 6 rounds? Lol I think it's very possible he gets KOd again but you think it will happen that early?

Absofuçkînglutely, Kov is not only past his prime but the fights with Ward has left him a shell of himself due to the invincibility aura is gone!

Not only that but Alvarez knows he can hurt him, Kov’s defense isn’t that good if he can’t hurt you and outgun you!

[harry-greb]

Compubox numbers usually reinforce what I see. But not always. The first six rounds were not close. Watch the fight again without sound if you need to. I don't know what pitty pat shots they gave Ward credit for and what they did or did not give Kovalev credit for.

But almost everyone, even nutjobs who have Ward winning, agree Kov was winning clearly over the first 6 rounds. Some try, ridiculously, to give him 2 of those rounds. You said he won 4. You are not a serious person.

But how did you score the second fight before the stoppage? Considering Kov won 6/7 on punch stats, I assume you had Ward up 6-1? Lol

Compubox might be in on the conspiracy too!!!
I've watched the fight 10 times. 5 of the first 6 rounds were nip and tuck. A couple of those rounds cud have go be either way but in no possible way did kovalev win those rounds clearly.
A serious person backs up their argument with facts. Compubox numbers are my facts.

I have to dig out my scorecard for the second fight. I'll get back to u.