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  • #31
    Originally posted by EnglishOxide View Post
    Remember when contenders didn't give a **** about the money and just backed themselves to win the fight and become the champion to get paid like the champion?

    Suddenly everyone wants to get paid retirement money just for challenging.
    Doesn't this touch on what Lewis alluded to. That Hearn was more worried about money (flat fees, low percentage) than actually making the fight.

    Both sides should want the fight more than the money....but it goes both ways.

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    • #32
      Everyone knows Hearns is full of *****! Aquajuice will fight Wilder or Fury but he doesn't have the balls to say no to Hearns. Hearns low balling Wilder & Fury is a way to avoid the fight. Hearn & Arum are scumbags!

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      • #33
        Translation: Fury is scared. He wants retirement money.
        That's all it boils down to. Fck titles. Fck becoming king.
        Fck all that. Money, money, money, money...
        These clowns need to get out of the sport.
        They are shameless.
        I'm not buying their fight.

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        • #34
          Last time I checked, Fury was guaranteed $3 mil, Wilder $4 mil.
          Nowhere near Hearn was offering.

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          • #35
            Fury had to leave home, while Joshua doesn't have to.

            Hearn must be doing something fantastic these guys can't match.

            Time for Fury to join Eddie.

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            • #36
              The judging will be fair, but Warren is bugging if he's actually arguing for and hanging the fight on no American/British judges (especially with the British judge leaning Wilder and the "controversial" score coming from the Mexican judge).

              Harvey Dock is arguably the best referee on the East Coast, the referee for the Joshua-Klitschko fight is also based on the East Coast, Benji Estevez is a really good ref, and then you have Steve Willis (still not sure where to rate his actual ref work). Can add Smoger too, but I'm not sure if he is refereeing all that much anymore (I still hold what's happened to Glen Tapia against him); almost forgot Mercante Jr, too.

              Pick any of those guys, and you're for sure in with a good and fair ref.

              In terms of judges, go for the most experienced judges with the track record of scoring the fight properly at the top level.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by puroylan View Post
                Hearn & Arum are scumbags!
                Al Haymon, Lou Di Bella, Shelley Finkel, Frank Warren...all have had lawsuits filed against them...multiple in fact...Eddie Hearn may well be a huge whopper but he isn't a scumbag to my knowledge, save that epithet for those that deserve it...

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                  The judging will be fair, but Warren is bugging if he's actually arguing for and hanging the fight on no American/British judges (especially with the British judge leaning Wilder and the "controversial" score coming from the Mexican judge).

                  Harvey Dock is arguably the best referee on the East Coast, the referee for the Joshua-Klitschko fight is also based on the East Coast, Benji Estevez is a really good ref, and then you have Steve Willis (still not sure where to rate his actual ref work). Can add Smoger too, but I'm not sure if he is refereeing all that much anymore (I still hold what's happened to Glen Tapia against him); almost forgot Mercante Jr, too.

                  Pick any of those guys, and you're for sure in with a good and fair ref.

                  In terms of judges, go for the most experienced judges with the track record of scoring the fight properly at the top level.
                  Smoger and Mercante Jr are criminally incompetent

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
                    Who exactly made the 40% claim? I recall Hearn speaking about what he theoretically COULD do, but not what he did do. Did he offer 40%?

                    I also think its valid for fans to wonder why 3 fighters not named Wilder have complained about the same thing Wilder did. Two of which are promoted by Hearn. It's worth discussing.
                    Again this could be another Eddie spin but I believe he has offered Wilder 40%. He said when AJ eventually moves on with his opponent all his offers will be revealed and fans will know what Wilder walked away from. He then went on to say if Wilder wants 40% he has it, Fury too blah blah blah. He gave his reasons for lowballing Dillian and stated he will return with another offer.

                    I think at this stage if Hearn was lying about his offers team Wilder will be quick to say he is lying if he was lying. I’m sure all will be revealed. However what I will say is that Deontay has no intention of fighting Joshua next even if he was offered 45%.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by DougalDylan View Post
                      I don't know who would ?

                      Its weird the 80 million comes from Warren etc who saw the contract that Hearn and Joshua weren't allowed to look at or question despite repeatedly saying they were interested . At no point did they even suggest a 80 million contract was available to the other side.

                      It later came out (Di Bella / Warren) that the 50 million contract they were going to offer Joshua allegedly required Joshua to buy out the fight rights himself from Sky so that they could sell them to BT.

                      Hey Joshua we'll give you 50 Million if you pay Sky 30 million though according to Di Bella if Aj refused to fight on BT they would offer a much reduced amount none of this was communicated to Hearn /AJ though Hearn suspected a con which it was.

                      So why didn't AJ just trust a deal with no contract, offered by a broke US fighter with a manager who has been previously sued for stealing other fighters money in title fights .. maybe because he has brains.

                      Wilder quote "the money is in the bag" .. but literally no money / no bag.
                      Yep, and Warren himself when he revealed the BT stipulation on the radio said he knew Hearn wouldn't go for the contract and that he himself wouldn't if he was Hearn.

                      So, it's a bit weird him going back on that one.

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