Comments Thread For: Frank Warren: Hearn's Offer is Nowhere Near What Fury is Worth

[j0zef]

Quick point of order:

Fury was NOT promoted by Warren when he fought Klitschko. He was with Mick Hennessy back then. He only signed with Warren upon regaining his boxing licence, in 2018 - part of decision to completely split with his old team and rebuild his career anew.

That said - you are correct. When compared to the stable represented by Matchroom and Matchroom USA, Frank Warren is a minnow. I'm not even sure who his World Champions are, other than Josh Warrington.

In order to generate publicity, he has invented the lie that Fury is the definite number 1 heavyweight in the World and that, somehow, the man without a blemish on his record, who holds 4 out of 5 belts and who is recognized as top dog by RING, Boxrec, TBRD, ESPN and CBS Sports, is only number 3.

Thanks for the correction, did not know/remember that.

[kafkod]

It's not an opinion. It's a fact. The IBO isn't a recognized world title. The WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO all recognize each other. None of them recognize the IBO.

None of the major TV networks recognize the IBO as a world title (including Sky). None of the major promoters recognize the IBO as a world title (including Matchroom).

ITV, who will be screening PBC shows in the UK, recognise the IBO, because they advertised and sold Eubank Jr vs Quinlan on PPV as a world title fight.

The WBSS also recognised Jr's IBO title as legit when he brought it with him to their SMW tournament.

As with lineal titles, whether the IBO is recognised or not depends on the agendas and purposes of the people concerned.

[Scipio2009]

Now Frank Warren is the Voice of reason? Frank Warren says Fury deserves 50/50 vs AJ but will accept 40% against Wilder please explain the logic to me please? Frank warren also stated Fury would earn more fighting Wilder than Joshua. Do you believe that? Let’s not get carried away with the quotes of Frank Warren. All will be revealed shortly

AnthonyJoshua is holding belts that Fury already won; Deontay Wilder is holding a belt that Deontay Wilder has yet to win, and Wilder's camp isn't picking around with Fury's camp's TV rights in their country.

And Fury likely got 45% for the Wilder fight, lol.

The biggest a Joshua fight can expect to clear in the UK is basically the $42m that was split on the Klitschko fight (and that was with Germany putting up a giant fee).

40% of that gets you to $17m; do you honestly think Fury is unlikely to see that on the rematch? Lol

[Cauliflower ear]

I'm not putting any stock into it, unless Hearn does not dispute what they say. Why do you put so much stock in what Hearn says?

I don't , he has obvious agendas, much like Dillian, and much like Khan.

So if Hearn doesn't come out and straight up deny you will think they are both being factually accurate. despite yourself not being privvy to any proven facts?. Sounds like you should work for CNN.

[Noelanthony]

AnthonyJoshua is holding belts that Fury already won; Deontay Wilder is holding a belt that Deontay Wilder has yet to win, and Wilder's camp isn't picking around with Fury's camp's TV rights in their country.

And Fury likely got 45% for the Wilder fight, lol.

The biggest a Joshua fight can expect to clear in the UK is basically the $42m that was split on the Klitschko fight (and that was with Germany putting up a giant fee).

40% of that gets you to $17m; do you honestly think Fury is unlikely to see that on the rematch? Lol

Anthony Joshua is holding belts that Fury already won.....and?? He has no belts now what does it matter. Your second sentence was incoherent but I will agree with you so to not offend you.

Tyson earned ( for argument sake) the perceived 8 million even though his guarantee was 3 million. Anyway let’s assume the rematch will be twice as big as the first fight. Tyson will not earn 20 million regardless of how convinced you are he will.

Honestly I don’t know how you magic that figure of 17 million? If Wilder was offered a 28 million Guarantee with approximately a 35%percentage how will Fury earn 17 million with a 40% percentage? All I ask just review what I said, research then respond promptly. I will be waiting for you or an apology. Cheers

[N/A]

ITV, who will be screening PBC shows in the UK, recognise the IBO, because they advertised and sold Eubank Jr vs Quinlan on PPV as a world title fight.

ITV is not a major boxing network. If it ends up becoming one thanks to PBC, it won't be bothering with the IBO for long.

The WBSS also recognised Jr's IBO title as legit when he brought it with him to their SMW tournament.

No they didn't. There's a difference between admitting a title exists and recognizing it as a world championship.

To suggest the WBSS recognizes the IBO as a world championship is to suggest that the WBSS finals with Usyk wasn't for the undisputed championship and clearly the WBSS considered that an undisputed fight.

[kafkod]

ITV is not a major boxing network. If it ends up becoming one thanks to PBC, it won't be bothering with the IBO for long.




No they didn't. There's a difference between admitting a title exists and recognizing it as a world championship.

To suggest the WBSS recognizes the IBO as a world championship is to suggest that the WBSS finals with Usyk wasn't for the undisputed championship and clearly the WBSS considered that an undisputed fight.

You said no major TV networks recognise the IBO. ITV is the biggest TV channel in the UK, and was once the UK's No1 source for boxing. They advertised and introduced Eubank Jr vs Quillin as a world SMW title fight. So clearly, they recognised Jr's IBO title.

The WBSS billed Eubank Jr vs Yilderim as as a world title fight and Eubank Jr vs Groves as a unification fight. Eubank Jr was introduced as the reigning, defending, IBO SMW champion of the world for both fights. So clearly, the WBSS recognised the IBO too.

[Bronx2245]

I don't , he has obvious agendas, much like Dillian, and much like Khan.

So if Hearn doesn't come out and straight up deny you will think they are both being factually accurate. despite yourself not being privvy to any proven facts?. Sounds like you should work for CNN.

You've told me everything I need to know about you! Good night! Go back to InfoWars!

[rickJen]

If Fury is worth that much, how come he can't even have home advantage?
This Warren guy doesn't have the sophistication of Hearn.
He sells Fury short.
Fury needs to think about jumping ship.

[Ake-Dawg]

As much as I can frown at Deontay’s decision making I understand it and whether I ike it or not , accept it. Mr Warren on the other hand everything is driven by envy and resentment for Hearn. Hypothetically speaking here, if Warren viewed Fury as deserving 60 million to fight AJ, if 40 million was offered he would consider that a derisory offer as it would be short of his estimation.

Based on the results of the Wilder fight, it seems Warren is of the position that he has a bird in hand with the rematch and that because HE FEELS Fury has crossover appeal in the US, that his guy brings both US and UK value. I feel that's overblown and he may be making a mistake as I feel Joshua may pose less danger to Fury than Wilder with more time to contemplate why he couldn't land like he wanted to in the first fight.