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  • #31
    Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
    Canelo should have bought USADA officials to give him a TUE for the clen.

    But i suppose the delay in the fight worked to his advantage.


    Canelo and Floyd have proved, you don't need to beat the system, you need to buy it.
    he got caught in February and didn't agree to testing until may lol so innocent!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
      At least in the case of Canelo Alvarez.

      The small amounts found in his system were consistent with meat contamination.

      And we know that for reasons of greed and profit the Mexican cattle industry is rife with the practice of using steroids with livestock.

      Additionally, there have been instances of other Mexican athletes running into the same problem.


      WADA drops clenbuterol case against Mexican soccer players
      Mexican beef can be a legitimate excuse for clenbuterol in an athlete's blood sample, the World Anti-Doping Agency said
      https://www.velonews.com/2011/10/new...players_195167


      Based on all that I think Canelo's excuse was reasonable. Do you agree?
      if canelo was purposely using peds he could have just avoided the test like the charlos did... and then even more he comes for a hair test knowing that not only clen but anything else used months before could have come out...

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      • #33
        Originally posted by icha View Post
        if canelo was purposely using peds he could have just avoided the test like the charlos did... and then even more he comes for a hair test knowing that not only clen but anything else used months before could have come out...
        hair test is not accurate in detecting clen or other peds. thats why they dont do them lol it was a misdirect. publicity stunt. red herring. something that they could pretend exonerated him when it had absolutely no bearing. the fact that they came up with this con to try and fool people makes me believe even more that they knew he was guilty. you dont try to trick people if you are innocent
        Last edited by daggum; 01-27-2019, 07:35 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
          Why would Canelo ask for random testing if he was knowingly using steroids? He isn't a ****** guy so that doesn't make any sense.
          Your right he isn't ****** . He didn't ask for random testing for the rematch Sanchez did. Coincidentally he also isn't ******.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
            Your right he isn't ****** . He didn't ask for random testing for the rematch Sanchez did. Coincidentally he also isn't ******.
            floyd asked for it and stuffed his body full of IV to hide i mean re-hydrate. that should be proof that these guys dont take the drug testing seriously at all. it should also tell you that the guys asking for it can also be asking for it because they know the system and their opponents dont. its a tactical advantage. catch your opponent who hasnt had time to develop proper techniques to getting around the testing, or maybe they simply stop using which is an advantage to you. all while you know how to get exemptions, flush your system, etc...

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            • #36
              Originally posted by daggum View Post
              hair test is not accurate in detecting clen or other peds. thats why they dont do them lol it was a misdirect. publicity stunt. red herring. something that they could pretend exonerated him when it had absolutely no bearing. the fact that they came up with this con to try and fool people makes me believe even more that they knew he was guilty. you dont try to trick people if you are innocent
              I seem to recall that it was Golovkin fans on social media who were clamoring for hair follicle tests.

              How clever of Canelo to plant all those people for use as a publicity stunt. He must have bought off hundreds of internet users to pretend to be irate GGG fans, what an evil genius.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                I seem to recall that it was Golovkin fans on social media who were clamoring for hair follicle tests.

                How clever of Canelo to plant all those people for use as a publicity stunt. He must have paid off hundreds of folks to do that, he is an evil genius.
                he didn't plant them but he used their ignorance to try and con people into believing an inaccurate test exonerated him. these are the type of people who probably think a caravan is coming to the states to kill everyone and we need an army at the border. its low hanging publicity fruit. if he was innocent i dont think they would waste their time trying to trick people

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                  Clenbuterol doesn't make you get bigger. So what would using or not using have to do with him looking 5 pounds smaller in the rematch?
                  Clen makes your gas tank bigger, funny, Canelo was gassed in the 1st fight, gets caught with clen in his system which would help with that issue, 2nd fight was fought at closer quarters and Canelo didn't appear to gas anywhere near as much as the 1st fight, his trainers are butchers, it's a known problem in Mexico, they know the rule that you are responsible for what goes in your mouth and the only reason he was caught was that the testing started earlier than intended, funny how everything that happened would have helped Canelo except for being caught

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by daggum View Post
                    hair test is not accurate in detecting clen or other peds. thats why they dont do them lol it was a misdirect. publicity stunt. red herring. something that they could pretend exonerated him when it had absolutely no bearing. the fact that they came up with this con to try and fool people makes me believe even more that they knew he was guilty. you dont try to trick people if you are innocent
                    ill take victor conte's word over yours when it comes to this matter...

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by icha View Post
                      ill take victor conte's word over yours when it comes to this matter...
                      so you are going to ignore all the research that shows its not accurate? if it was so accurate why dont they use it for testing? its certainly easier than blood and urine. why would you believe just one guy instead of mountains of evidence to the contrary? this one guy happens to be one of the most controversial figures in boxing and has worked with fighters and promoters but yeah hes just giving his opinion!

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