The "tainted Mexican beef" excuse is plausible

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Better than no excuse for taking a banned IV.

Has Floyd came up with a emergency medical reason why he needed to do so?


I'm guessing to mask the PEDs he was taking won't fly well, so maybe that is why he is keeping it hush hush.

Different topic. But Floyd had a the****utic use exemption from USADA for the IV so it wasn't illegal.

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That's a much more unrealistic possibility.

The amounts found in Canelo's system were small and consistent with eating contaminated meat. And he doesn't have a history of being a person with low morals who would lie and cheat.

Plus he did even better against Golovkin under VADA testing than he did without.

you know him? didn't he knock out the teeth of solis and pretend it was his brother? maybe the meat made him do it.

he did better after getting caught doing peds? doesnt that bolster the he did ped argument? the only time we know for sure that he was on peds is before the second fight. we dont know if he did them before the first fight although its probable. those ped gains earned during the off season dont just vanish and he obviously upped his awareness after getting caught

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Different topic. But Floyd had a the****utic use exemption from USADA for the IV so it wasn't illegal.

should he have been given that exemption? obviously not. these guys know how to beat the system. they know what is tested for and what is not. they know how to get exemptions. its all a farce. if you are smart you will never get caught. canelo just got lazy which happens after awhile with everything. he was so used to getting away with it that he got sloppy. now hes going to hide it much better from now on

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should he have been given that exemption? obviously not. these guys know how to beat the system. they know what is tested for and what is not. they know how to get exemptions. its all a farce. if you are smart you will never get caught. canelo just got lazy which happens after awhile with everything. he was so used to getting away with it that he got sloppy. now hes going to hide it much better from now on

Why would Canelo ask for random testing if he was knowingly using steroids? He isn't a ****** guy so that doesn't make any sense.

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Why would Canelo ask for random testing if he was knowingly using steroids? He isn't a ****** guy so that doesn't make any sense.

because his reputation was destroyed and he had to do something. testing is beatable. everyone knows this. why are we pretending like its an unbeatable system?

[GhostofDempsey]

Clenbutrol is the exact type of PED that would benefit a fighter like Canelo. Shed fat while maintaining muscle. My guess is he started using it right after the Floyd fight. He didn’t want to be at a disadvantage ever again. Look how he suddenly wants a rehydration clause for Jacobs now. I suspect that if it were Charlo the one he got the gift decision against, the same folks defending him would be outraged.

Cheating is cheating. Canelo knee all the risks regarding tainted beef in Mexico. He is worth millions and can afford the very best in produce.

[TonyGe]

I'm not defending PED use. Canelo failed his tests and deserved to get punished for it. That's the bottom line.

But that doesn't mean that Canelo purposefully cheated as so many want to insist. His explanation of having done it accidentally and with no ill intent is reasonable and very possible.

Yeah it's possible and reasonable and the other side of the argument is possible and reasonable also. So how does that work out? What we are left with is he failed his drug test got banned and violated his contact with Golovkin by not showing up for the fight. Didn't apologize to him, didn't attend his hearing and dragged his feet enrolling in the 365 VADA testing. It cost the Casino's millions of dollars in lost revenues and peoples vacations were screwed up. When Golovkin wanted the terms of the rematch contract that Canelo failed to live up to changed more in his favor he's cast as the villain by the lunatic fringe that stalks these threads. That's why Canelo isn't respected by Golovkin fans.

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because his reputation was destroyed and he had to do something. testing is beatable. everyone knows this. why are we pretending like its an unbeatable system?

Listen to yourself.

Canelo was pressured to do something...so he asked for random testing knowing that he was using steroids? And he planned to only have trace amounts in his system at the exact time of the tests so that he could use the tainted meat excuse?

That's quite an elaborate plan you're suggesting he concocted.

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Different topic. But Floyd had a the****utic use exemption from USADA for the IV so it wasn't illegal.

Canelo should have bought USADA officials to give him a TUE for the clen.

But i suppose the delay in the fight worked to his advantage.


Canelo and Floyd have proved, you don't need to beat the system, you need to buy it.

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Listen to yourself.

Canelo was pressured to do something...so he asked for random testing knowing that he was using steroids? And he planned to only have trace amounts in his system at the exact time of the tests so that he could use the tainted meat excuse?

That's quite an elaborate plan you're suggesting he concocted.

i was obviously referring to the "year round testing" he signed up for after getting caught. you should have been able to figure that out given the context. most big fights do random testing. i dont remember canelo being the one to specifically ask for it floyd style. that was put into the contract and probably by ggg's team. and people do dumb things. floyd was the one who wanted drug testing and then he got caught cheating(oh i mean he was exempt)