Calm Down, Pac Fan

[strykr619]

I don't get why people are so bothered by Pac looking good at 40. I thought boxing fans would be respecting him for that.

Racists are bothered by it. If its B-Hop its because he is a god, its an Asian so he must be a roid head because Asians are suppose to only be good at math.

[koolkc107]

I don't get why people are so bothered by Pac looking good at 40. I thought boxing fans would be respecting him for that.

No problem with Pac looking good and taking all the victory laps he can.

But, as usual, some of his more unrealistic fans are getting completely carried away at his prospects in the division.

Looking good against a washed Matthysse and an inactive Broner doesn't mean he is back...actually, the old Pac of even 3 or 4 years ago would have turned in better performances.

It's those unrealistic folks who cannot see the difference in Pac at 40 that are in for a very rude awakening if Pac ever gets in against some of the better and younger welters out there.

Pac will have a serious problem against ANY of the top PBC guys, nevermind the top 3 guys in the division- Spence, Crawford, and Thurman.

My opinion, and we will see if I am right.

[strykr619]

No problem with Pac looking good and taking all the victory laps he can.

But, as usual, some of his more unrealistic fans are getting completely carried away at his prospects in the division.

Looking good against a washed Matthysse and an inactive Broner doesn't mean he is back...actually, the old Pac of even 3 or 4 years ago would have turned in better performances.

It's those unrealistic folks who cannot see the difference in Pac at 40 that are in for a very rude awakening if Pac ever gets in against some of the better and younger welters out there.

Pac will have a serious problem against ANY of the top PBC guys, nevermind the top 3 guys in the division- Spence, Crawford, and Thurman.

My opinion, and we will see if I am right.

Nonsense, its called he is fighting smarter he knows he is getting older.

Pac having a serious problem against the top 3? LOL Crawford most def, Spence? you mean his long time sparring partner who got worked on the regular?

Thurman? Please he does NOT WANT THAT OLD MAN HANDS.

The only fighter that i would be clearly worried about is Crawford. Gonna see how he looks against Khan (dude is chinny so i expect him to get put down at some point but he lets see how he handles speed until then).

[Richard G]

Pac would get a lot more favourable attention if his many extreme fans stopped with the rubbish, they are his worst enemy PR wise.

[koolkc107]

Nonsense, its called he is fighting smarter he knows he is getting older.

Pac having a serious problem against the top 3? LOL Crawford most def, Spence? you mean his long time sparring partner who got worked on the regular?

Thurman? Please he does NOT WANT THAT OLD MAN HANDS.

The only fighter that i would be clearly worried about is Crawford. Gonna see how he looks against Khan (dude is chinny so i expect him to get put down at some point but he lets see how he handles speed until then).

Spence was never Manny's sparring partner.

The only PBC guy I know of that sparred Manny was Porter, and what happened to a young fighter a long time ago practicing with oversized gloves ago won't necessarily happen now in live fire with 8 oz ones.

But why would I expect you to know that...

Manny will have serious problems with anyone at 140 to 147 who has decent power, speed, and an average workrate. Hell, I'd take Prograis over Manny right now...

[strykr619]

Spence was never Manny's sparring partner.

The only PBC guy I know of that sparred Manny was Porter, and what happened to a young fighter a long time ago practicing with oversized gloves ago won't necessarily happen now in live fire with 8 oz ones.

But why would I expect you to know that...

Manny will have serious problems with anyone at 140 to 147 who has decent power, speed, and an average workrate. Hell, I'd take Prograis over Manny right now...

Thanks for the correction, I got Spence confused for Porter... I know more about Pugilism and Martial Arts in general then you will ever know.

[koolkc107]

Thanks for the correction, I got Spence confused for Porter... I know more about Pugilism and Martial Arts in general then you will ever know.

Oh, I just bet you do...

[hugh grant]

First, let me begin by saying hats off to Manny for still looking pretty good vs a younger guy.

But, let's not get carried away here.

Broner was picked by Pac and his people because of who he has been for years now- a guy that doesn't move his hands much in spite of his obvious talent.

Unless Broner was going to totally revamp his game (and it's on him that he didn't) there was no way he was going to throw enough to outwork Pac even at 40.

The interesting thing is that somehow Broner managed to inflict much more damage on Pacquiao with his few punches than Manny did landing over twice as much.

Broner looked just like he did postfight as prefight; Manny, on the other hand, was visibly marked up and is now under a doctor's care as of this date.

All this is to say that a few of you who follow Pac need to calm the hell down.

He isn't "back"...he never will be.

What Pac is now is a guy that can make money with carefully selected opponents, a guy that will never be a threat to the best in the division.

Whataminute...I just described Pac's whole career at welterweight.


Nevermind, maybe he is back...

Floyd ducked thurman, spence at 38 years old. So you won't begrudge Pac cherry picking thurman after thurman coming off poor performance will you?
I mean Pac is giving all advantages away. Thurman is still cherry picking pac. B ecause as you said, Pac is only beating broner and lucas

[chrisJS]

Floyd ducked thurman, spence at 38 years old. So you won't begrudge Pac cherry picking thurman after thurman coming off poor performance will you?
I mean Pac is giving all advantages away. Thurman is still cherry picking pac. B ecause as you said, Pac is only beating broner and lucas

He picked Broner to KO Pacquaio too. That's nearly as bad as when he picked Pedraza to beat Lomachenko.

[WholeSoul75]

First, let me begin by saying hats off to Manny for still looking pretty good vs a younger guy.

But, let's not get carried away here.

Broner was picked by Pac and his people because of who he has been for years now- a guy that doesn't move his hands much in spite of his obvious talent.

Unless Broner was going to totally revamp his game (and it's on him that he didn't) there was no way he was going to throw enough to outwork Pac even at 40.

floyd says
"So, Pacquiao is now under our umbrella - the Mayweather and Haymon umbrella... I like to say that we're one, that me and Al Haymon are one. He's been like a father to me, as far as in the business world. I have two fathers, one who taught me the fight game and one who taught me business on the outside.

"I think the best fight for Pacquiao.... I told Al Haymon that the best fight for Pacquiao is probably the Adrien Broner fight. And then we got Errol Spence. They are talking about Spence or Crawford.

"We are not doing that [rematch] right now. We have to let that fight build and then down the line let that fight happen."

https://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-i-told-al-haymon-make-pacquiao-vs-broner--132942