Comments Thread For: Joshua: I Thought Fury Beat Wilder, Fury is Huge Fight For Me

[chrisJS]

No expert will have AJ as #1, making the claim destroys your credibility.

Zero argument for him. Fury is the division.

I think Joshua has to be ranked #1 currently but Fury closed the gap being nowhere near ready yet still schooling Wilder, a guy with insane hype. I’d pick Fury to beat Joshua but I think Joshua deserves #2 currently with Fury 2.

[REDEEMER]

"Even though he doesn't have a belt..." Only reason Fury doesn't have a belt is because he refused to fight Glazkov in a pointless IBF defence, then lost his way due to mental health problems so was stripped of the others... Does AJ have a naive reverence for the belts or something? Every organisation is just as unscrupulously corrupt as the next. Fury is still the unbeaten Man in the heavyweight division, underscored by his performance against Wilder, so not owning a belt is irrelevant.

Fury don't have a belt because he was robbed in December .

[Laligalaliga]

Haha, touché

Hahahahahaha, touche.

[LoadedWraps]

1. Yes there are 3 huge names in the division right now and only 2 can fight at a time. If Wilder fights Fury then one of them loses. When they're done, Joshua will still hold 3 belts, still be number 1. It's not exactly devastating for Joshua, especially given he's the one with time on his side.

Look at it another way. He's got a bye to the final. These 2 are fighting to be 2nd place.

2. The biggest fight will be the one that gets made. 2nd v 3rd isn't the biggest fight possible. Come on, we could have an undisputed fight! Or a fight for Lineal and the ring belt. From a fan perspective, this is the smallest fight out of the three! Are people fooling themselves, or can Americans really not look past American fighters? Jeez, us Brits loved the big US fights of the 90s.

3. If Fury wins, you can bet there's a rematch clause. Nothing to do with how good the fight is. You think if Wilder wins the fans will be clamoring for a rematch and not an undisputed fight? Nonsense.


I don't care whether people dislike Joshua, but I find comments taking pleasure in him not fighting these two really strange. Like people would be happy to see the belts separated forever and no-one relevant to fight the number 1 fighter.

I find it really hard to believe that any boxing fan would think that way. Yet here we are on a boxing forum and it's a very common opinion!

AJ has never been #1. Fury is the man to beat.

[LoadedWraps]

Do I think Fury can beat Joshua? Yes.

Do I think Fury should currently be ranked above Joshua? Absolutely not.

Show me all these credible experts ranking Fury above Joshua.

You just quoted one boyo.

[Toffee]

You just quoted one boyo.

Self praise is no recommendation.

[Batfink]

What on earth is going on?!? Is there a Joshua fight on April 13 or not? I simply cannot understand how we are heading into February 2019 and still no opponent. This has to be ranked as an epic fail and a complete landslide on team matchroom strategy. These guys are now operating in suspended animation afloat aloof as the the rug that was pulled from underneath them by fury wilder I has crippled their focus and challenges their ability to get feet back on the ground.

They cannot get a fight together for Joshua. All these games they have been playing are coming back to bite. All those token gesture offers of chump change fixed fees followed by low ball percentages have eaten away at time. Wilder Fury II is a big fight with huge payday amongst parties that easily negotiate a fight. They have 0 insentive to face AJ unless he props up the money and compels then to reject a rematch in favour of Joshua.

Eddie Hearn spent so much time on he said she said he has totally forgotten the number #1 objective - getting a genuine fight made

If Tyson Fury and Wilder don’t want to fight you for less than 50/50 then close that chapter and move on squire. It is as simple as that and by using negative publicity and media spin to force a fight between Joshua and wilder/fury is unpleasant and obnoxious. Moving onto other potential opponents such as Whyte and Miller after publically insisting wilder/fury is no1 fights that rhetoric has simply encouraged these fighters to up their asking price and that is simple economics.

What is evident is Hearn likes to stick to the same pricing policy. Send out the lowest possible offer and increment it by the smallest possible amount. No one in business likes a drip feeding process it simply protracts the negotiations and before long parties become disinterested.

It’s seems that the management and promotion of AJ is showing really signs of ineptitude and demonstrate clear incompetency.

I think it’s time for some seriously organised and career promoters to try and poach AJ away from matchroom or particularly Eddie Hearn who is diabolical in an industry where we are seing ever increasing numbers in boxing and fighters earning in excess of £50m with dreams of a billion would you trust that to an east end wheeler dealer who was gifted everything from his daddy? Or would you take on a promotor that’s worthy of your ambition...

[Bossman15]

Hearn offered Fury a deal with 4 fights the last one being aj

he said, he said nooooo

You forgot that Fury said he would face Joshua in his first fight back trying to give Fury a lowball offer means nothing and you wonder why Joshua got knocked out that's because he's nothing Special