Comments Thread For: Joshua: I Thought Fury Beat Wilder, Fury is Huge Fight For Me

[MulaKO]

[QUOTE=HeadBodyBodyBody;19464553]The tide has turned enough, in media narratives, and whatever, that AJ can't risk going against mainstream opinion anymore. I'm cynical about AJ though, I think he would say the sky is green if that's what he thought people wanted to hear (or probably worse than that, if that's what he was told to say).[/sQUOTE]

Yup I agree totally
He is beginning to sound like a fughin puppet
Not sure if Hearn is actually looking out for him or looking for his own interest
And I ain’t no fughin Wilder or AJ fan to set the record straight
Just calling it as I see it

[HeadBodyBodyBody]

Well in that case Gandhi is lineal champion in every weight class for all time.

The rating system is what it is, you can’t just change it to suit your argument, hate him all you like but AJ is number one ranked and rated by all but one sanctioner and by his actions Wilder has made it clear that taking that number one spot is not his priority, because if it was he’d unify before any other contest.

Well, the point is that 'rating systems' based on belts don't tell the whole story, I'm sure you can understand that, don't be obtuse

[Toffee]

1. JOSHUA is odd man out

2. The biggest fight worldwide is WILDER vs FURY 2.

3. WILDER vs FURY 2 might be so good that they fight a trilogy!!

1. Yes there are 3 huge names in the division right now and only 2 can fight at a time. If Wilder fights Fury then one of them loses. When they're done, Joshua will still hold 3 belts, still be number 1. It's not exactly devastating for Joshua, especially given he's the one with time on his side.

Look at it another way. He's got a bye to the final. These 2 are fighting to be 2nd place.

2. The biggest fight will be the one that gets made. 2nd v 3rd isn't the biggest fight possible. Come on, we could have an undisputed fight! Or a fight for Lineal and the ring belt. From a fan perspective, this is the smallest fight out of the three! Are people fooling themselves, or can Americans really not look past American fighters? Jeez, us Brits loved the big US fights of the 90s.

3. If Fury wins, you can bet there's a rematch clause. Nothing to do with how good the fight is. You think if Wilder wins the fans will be clamoring for a rematch and not an undisputed fight? Nonsense.


I don't care whether people dislike Joshua, but I find comments taking pleasure in him not fighting these two really strange. Like people would be happy to see the belts separated forever and no-one relevant to fight the number 1 fighter.

I find it really hard to believe that any boxing fan would think that way. Yet here we are on a boxing forum and it's a very common opinion!

[sportbuddha]

Well, the point is that 'rating systems' based on belts don't tell the whole story, I'm sure you can understand that, don't be obtuse

No intent to annoy you.

I agree the ratings don’t tell the whole story, the system is purposely ambiguous to suit bookmakers. I was simply trying to make the point that we have to recognise that’s the system we have and to suggest AJ is not number one is just ignoring the fact.

[LoadedWraps]

I think the experts have Josh no1, but many boxing fans have fury no1.
Josh battered fury in sparring. They will meet onevday

No expert will have AJ as #1, making the claim destroys your credibility.

Zero argument for him. Fury is the division.

[Toffee]

No expert will have AJ as #1, making the claim destroys your credibility.

Zero argument for him. Fury is the division.

Do I think Fury can beat Joshua? Yes.

Do I think Fury should currently be ranked above Joshua? Absolutely not.

Show me all these credible experts ranking Fury above Joshua.

[Laligalaliga]

AJ could have 100 belts, it still wouldn't make any difference. The man makes the belt, not the other way round.

You are right on that.... The man makes the belt. AJ has handled his position as the unified champ very well and defended them as at when due.

I can recall one got his belt and ran AWOL to the high heavens to sip some coke. Wasn't courageous enough to defend them.

[HeadBodyBodyBody]

You are right on that.... The man makes the belt. AJ has handled his position as the unified champ very well and defended them as at when due.

I can recall one got his belt and ran AWOL to the high heavens to sip some coke. Wasn't courageous enough to defend them.

Haha, touché

[thack]

Can't wait for tomorrows Huge Joshua v Whyte rematch announcement......YAWN....Was ringside for the first but wouldn't dream of paying through the nose for the second....Joshua maybe a little quicker this time.

Can't wait or pick a winner for the real main event though....another thriller no doubt ...!

[Oshio]

It's a fact that Fury beats Wilder all year round. It had to take a certain Alejandro Rochin to make him retain his title