Wilder is more interested in making people think AJ is ducking him

[Rock&Roll]

Check the thread title.

You just aknowleged that what the OP says there is correct.

Wilder and Finkel did not really want to fight AJ next, and they are working their butts off to make people think that they did want to fight him next, but AJ ducked it.

Re Ortiz:

An undefeated world champion with nearly 40 fights, the self proclaimed "baddest man on the planet" agreed to fight an aging challenger, on medication for high blood pressure, who has never beaten a single top 10 opponent, and you think he deserves special kudos and respect for that?

As you mention risk/reward, consider this: Wilder had just found out that Ortiz had medical issues, and Ortiz agreed to fight him for $500k, if they gave him another chance.

Wilder's "alternative plan" to avoid unifying with AJ till he could get more money for it is also based purely on risk/reward.

I didn't aknowledge sh't...You are putting words into my mouth, which is pathetic.
Sorry if you are so niave you think the boxers are the negotiating their fights. Finkel is the brains. Wilder is a tall dumb boxer. He ain't the person negotiating, coming up with $50 mill, or alternative fights. Wilder would prob accept the penuts Joshua is tossing him if Finkel (and haymon) let him. There is bigger politics at play than a boxer worrying about the petty sh't you are trying to argue with me about.

Joshua said:
a) he wants to fight in America
b) he wants 50 mill to fight wilder

He got offered both - his BIGGEST payday! He made himself look like he was ducking you fool.

Anyway, you have shown your hand....a true unobjective Joshua fangirl protecting her man. You are trying to argue with someone without an emotional connection to any certain fighter (unlike yourself) who thinks Wilder is an awful boxer....
You are a 'protect joshua at all times' fangirl.

Now please leave this objective fence sitter alone.

[kafkod]

I didn't aknowledge sh't...You are putting words into my mouth, which is pathetic.
Sorry if you are so niave you think the boxers are the negotiating their fights. Finkel is the brains. Wilder is a tall dumb boxer. He ain't the person negotiating, coming up with $50 mill, or alternative fights. Wilder would prob accept the penuts Joshua is tossing him if Finkel (and haymon) let him. There is bigger politics at play than a boxer worrying about the petty sh't you are trying to argue with me about.

Joshua said:
a) he wants to fight in America
b) he wants 50 mill to fight wilder

He got offered both - his BIGGEST payday! He made himself look like he was ducking you fool.

Anyway, you have shown your hand....a true unobjective Joshua fangirl protecting her man. You are trying to argue with someone without an emotional connection to any certain fighter (unlike yourself) who thinks Wilder is an awful boxer....
You are a 'protect joshua at all times' fangirl.

Now please leave this objective fence sitter alone.

Stop being so emotional yourself and think about what you are saying.

The thread title asks if Wilder is more interested in making people think AJ is ducking him than in fighting him.

Your post, saying that Finkel and Wilder had a plan to get a better deal from AJ fight by fighting Fury first, aknowleged that they didn't really want to fight AJ next.

Every word they have spoken about AJ and Hearn since then was designed to make people think that AJ was ducking Wilder.

Only idiots are still talking about the bogus $50million offer which AJ couldn't accept because of his contract with Sky.

"Accept the money first .. then we'll tell you where it's coming from." Yeah, right!

[Mammoth]

That fight isn't happening next. You Brits better get Eddie to make that Whyte fight asap.

[chrisJS]

I said from day one there was really no major intention to make the fight and that they were building towards it with the usual posturing and hyping in the media since that works on this generation of boxing fans who are really into the whole "my guy is being ducked", "you're guy is a ducker". Ever notice how no boxing fan ever admits one of their guys is ducking yet all their rivals are ducking everyone?

I think Wilder has decided to market himself on being ducked and is obsessed with that angle but it doesn't add up when you say in the same interview, "He's a coward. He's ducking me" and "They are begging to fight me. They are desperate to fight me", that doesn't add up nor did it when he said, "I'll fight him for free. I'll fight him anywhere. It's not about money" but then it became about money. I just don't think Wilder is that smart and that's why he's coming across as the one ducking. I do believe Fury is a cherry pick that went wrong and now he's re-matching him which is a worthwhile fight.

[Rock&Roll]

Only idiots are still talking about the bogus $50million offer which AJ couldn't accept because of his contract with Sky.

"Accept the money first .. then we'll tell you where it's coming from." Yeah, right!



You are as dumb as a post. Only idiots don't know basic contract law.

I heard same network bullcrap with manny/pac and tyson/???

If it says in a contract i will give you $50 mill for a fight, it matters NOT where the money comes from. Only matters that i pay up.

Your god hearn wanted to know where they were getting the money, but he is opposition. Why would you reveal all to your buisness enemy?? Only an idiot cannot understand this.

I will let you reply and have the last post in our convo, i'm off the **** my head against the wall.

[CalebCelt]

He blatently ducked the No1.

Not saying AJ will turn out to be the best if they all fight each other. But as of now, he's the No1 and Wilder ducked him to fight Fury, who looked miles off his best in his first 2 come back fights.

And he didn't even have the excuse of being able to say he went for the highest paying option.

He went for Fury fight because offer from AJ camp was derisory.
Then it was a draw...if he doesn't rematch Fury whom most people including myself thought won the fight then he will be accused of ducking Fury, let them settle that and then see who takes on AJ.
Hearn must calm down and remember that life isn't the Eddie show, things happen, and AJ will still have his day...it's really going to be ok

[CalebCelt]

Than actually fighting AJ

He doesn't care that it's massive money

He doesn't care that it's for undisputed

He doesn't care about "one champion one face whatever"

All he cares is that the idiots think AJ is ducking him

He's HAPPY to go and Fight Fury for no belt and less money, he's happy to.

Are you Deontay?!
You sure to seem to know his every thought and feeling...or you just come off as claiming too...of course he is happy to find a result conclusion between him and Fury, not sure what there is to be this upset about?? It's not the AJ show this thing called life, **** happens and sometimes you need to wait for what you want, AJ really is going to be fine...it's all ok.

[kafkod]

He went for Fury fight because offer from AJ camp was derisory.
Then it was a draw...if he doesn't rematch Fury whom most people including myself thought won the fight then he will be accused of ducking Fury, let them settle that and then see who takes on AJ.
Hearn must calm down and remember that life isn't the Eddie show, things happen, and AJ will still have his day...it's really going to be ok

So why did he say he accepted the offer .. even though Hearn said he was willing to negotiate a percentage split, rather than the $15million flat fee?

[kafkod]

I didn't aknowledge sh't...You are putting words into my mouth, which is pathetic.
Sorry if you are so niave you think the boxers are the negotiating their fights. Finkel is the brains. Wilder is a tall dumb boxer. He ain't the person negotiating, coming up with $50 mill, or alternative fights. Wilder would prob accept the penuts Joshua is tossing him if Finkel (and haymon) let him. There is bigger politics at play than a boxer worrying about the petty sh't you are trying to argue with me about.

Joshua said:
a) he wants to fight in America
b) he wants 50 mill to fight wilder

He got offered both - his BIGGEST payday! He made himself look like he was ducking you fool.

Anyway, you have shown your hand....a true unobjective Joshua fangirl protecting her man. You are trying to argue with someone without an emotional connection to any certain fighter (unlike yourself) who thinks Wilder is an awful boxer....
You are a 'protect joshua at all times' fangirl.

Now please leave this objective fence sitter alone.

An objective fence sitter who leaves bitchy visitors messages at people's profiles when they say something she doesn't like about her hero?

Lol .. ok.

[CalebCelt]

So why did he say he accepted the offer .. even though Hearn said he was willing to negotiate a percentage split, rather than the $15million flat fee?

If Wilder accepted the offer they would have fought?
I hear you though, wilders camp did say they had agreed, is this when Hearn said but wilder didn't sign anything??