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  • Noelanthony
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    #21
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    that is why he is in no hurry to face Wilder
    Damn even after offering 40%? What percentage then will convince you he wants the fight? Or you have just made up your mind for good and he just doesn’t want the fight

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    • IMDAZED
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      #22
      Most of the people in this thread whining about Wilder’s actions are the same ones who said he was nuts not to take a flat fee offer.

      The biggest sign that Team Joshua screwed themselves is the fact that they are now strongly considering coming to the US for his next fight. He’s lost so much luster since the Klitschko bout.

      What Hearn doesn’t understand (or maybe he does, hence the desperation) is that if Wilder-Fury 2 occurs, the winner won’t be fielding offers, they’ll be making them. And it’ll be up to Joshua to put pressure on his promoter. Outmaneuvered? Absolutely. Look where we were a year ago.

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      • Feint First
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        #23
        So no Wilder, no Fury, Whyte rejecting Hearns lowball offer, Fat Baby going in a different direction according to kim, too scared to ever fight Ortiz..........sounds like genius Hearn and Joshua outsmarted themselves and are up shiet creek.

        For a guy supposed to be some huge, mega-attraction, money train every heavyweight should want to face, funny how all the top guys are telling Hearns: Naw, kick rocks.
        Last edited by Feint First; 01-22-2019, 05:58 AM.

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        • Jax teller
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          #24
          Originally posted by earl-hickey
          That's what Americans want

          They will be happy to see their "pestidgous" wbc champ feast on bums in podunk towns in the usa for years and fall back on the excuse that they couldn't get a deal done back in 2018 as justification for Wilder avoiding the fight.

          Beating a 40 year old no resume luis ortiz was enough for them, they will be happy with that until wilder retires.

          For a country with such a rich history in heavyweight boxing, they have been straight pathetic since Holyfield lost to Lewis in 1997

          absoloute joke business since then.
          The only conlusion I can make from all the Wilder fansboys behaviourt is they desperately want to see Wilder get one over on AJ and the know subconciously, deep down it won't happen in the ring.

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            #25
            Originally posted by frosty-g
            Really? So they can’t just go on the merry go round of fighting all the next tier down like Hearn wants Joshua to do? Why is that?
            Cause people don't pay to go see Fury or Wilder fight C level fighters like Martin and Molina the way they do for AJ....
            I'm no AJ fan and I wouldn't pay to watch him fight either of those two fighters I mentioned but thousands of people would... That's why AJ can fight anyone and make a huge amount of money.
            Fury and Wilder will need to fight AJ to get a career pay day...
            Those are facts!

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            • frosty-g
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              #26
              Originally posted by earl-hickey
              Well they can

              I'm sure 90,000 will pack out wembley stadium to see Fury take on Kubrat Pulev

              And Wilder will surely have the LAX airport in chaos as high rollers from around the world buy their 100k tickets to see him take on Dominic "Trouble" Brezeale in an all american mega-clash

              Meanwhile in the real world, they are going to need Joshua
              Depends on your definition of “need” - these lads aren’t scraping around for pennies.
              The rematch is gonna make big money and a third fight could be possible too. Then there’s Whyte and Miller they could make a few quid off.
              In terms of legacy well they’ll have had two fights against each other, possibly three, which is way better than Joshua’s legacy, and then all the rest that are available - that is no worse than what Joshua has remaining on the table.

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              • frosty-g
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                #27
                Originally posted by earl-hickey
                Yeah great.

                In what universe would that be a good thing?
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                • Earl-Hickey
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by frosty-g
                  Depends on your definition of “need” - these lads aren’t scraping around for pennies.
                  The rematch is gonna make big money and a third fight could be possible too. Then there’s Whyte and Miller they could make a few quid off.
                  In terms of legacy well they’ll have had two fights against each other, possibly three, which is way better than Joshua’s legacy, and then all the rest that are available - that is no worse than what Joshua has remaining on the table.
                  First of all, the main issue here is Wilder

                  Fury, he's a different case and I suspect that would be a LOT easier of a fight to make than the one with Wilder

                  but they are focused on Wilder because he's got a belt and has the history

                  Well, Wilder already LOST to Fury and if he loses again his "legacy" will be a guy who beat 39 bums and one 40 year old cuban and got schooled twice by Fury

                  So Wilder can crow all he wants but lets face facts he's on VERY thin ice right now in terms of his career.

                  If Fury schools wilder again, then everyone forgets about him, and I think AJ vs Fury WILL happen in the second half of the year for undisputed.

                  That's why i'm saying wilder needs to stop talking trash and consider his options right now, because he showed very little in the first fight to convince me he can do any better let alone actually BEAT a fury who will be a lot closer to his best shape in the rematch

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Most of the people in this thread whining about Wilder’s actions are the same ones who said he was nuts not to take a flat fee offer.

                    The biggest sign that Team Joshua screwed themselves is the fact that they are now strongly considering coming to the US for his next fight. He’s lost so much luster since the Klitschko bout.

                    What Hearn doesn’t understand (or maybe he does, hence the desperation) is that if Wilder-Fury 2 occurs, the winner won’t be fielding offers, they’ll be making them. And it’ll be up to Joshua to put pressure on his promoter. Outmaneuvered? Absolutely. Look where we were a year ago.
                    I think it would be a big mistake if Hearn let's Whyte leave to PBC! At some point, you have to be able to close the deal! It won't be nice watching Fury and Whyte steal Joshua's shine!

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                    • frosty-g
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BigStomps
                      I'm no AJ fan and I wouldn't pay to watch him fight either of those two fighters I mentioned but thousands of people would...
                      I’m glad you didn’t refer to them as boxing fans because even “people” is a bit of a stretch...

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