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  • Bronx2245
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    #91
    Originally posted by kafkod
    Why does it matter that PBC fighters have turned down Hearn? Just because Haymon pays some of his guys more than Hearn offered them means nothing. They aren't Dillian Whyte.

    Danny Jacobs says he's earning more with Matchroom than he was earning with PBC, but that doesn't matter either, because Jacobs isn't Dillian Whyte.

    I'm sure Haymon isn't going to pay Dillian more for Breazeale or Ortiz than he would get for fighting AJ, and he can't offer him a shot at 3 world title belts either.

    Whyte said, out of his own mouth, in an interview 2 days ago, that he blames AJ for what he thinks is a lowball offer and there is no problem between him and Eddie.
    I don't know that Haymon is paying more than Hearn, and I don't know that Whyte could make more than what Hearn is offering, because I don't know what Hearn or Haymon is paying their fighters! Even Whyte wouldn't reveal what he was actually offered, and he said "he can't reveal" what Hearn has offered! He did say the offer was less than what he was paid for Chisora! Hearn said he offered Khan "double" the Arum offer! Khan says the offers were the same! Someone is lying! BTW, according to Jacobs, Haymon is still his adviser!

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    • kafkod
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      #92
      Originally posted by Bronx2245
      I don't know that Haymon is paying more than Hearn, and I don't know that Whyte could make more than what Hearn is offering, because I don't know what Hearn or Haymon is paying their fighters! Even Whyte wouldn't reveal what he was actually offered, and he said "he can't reveal" what Hearn has offered! He did say the offer was less than what he was paid for Chisora! Hearn said he offered Khan "double" the Arum offer! Khan says the offers were the same! Someone is lying! BTW, according to Jacobs, Haymon is still his adviser!
      He also says he's earning more and feeling happier with Matchroom than ever before in his career.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Noelanthony
        So if Fury beats him in the rematch what will you have to say for yourself?

        As a Wilder fan you are happier him snubbing AJ instead of him being potentially undisputed? Each to their own I hope everything works out for you but I don’t want to hear you crying on the forum because I will tell you I told you so
        I will say that it was a good job by Fury. I still support my fighters after losses. I know that the fight will happen, but it won't be next. I'm happy that Wilder will get what he deserves in the fight rather than to take the relative crumbs that Hearn has previously offered.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Noelanthony
          American Fans would rather see AJ frozen out than their champion challenge for the undisputed..... Firstly Wilderlites complained about the derisory offer( which in fairness was) However, now that there is a good offer on the table even though Wilder fans know Wilder lost his last fight they would rather set their sights on becoming the Lineal.

          I understand Winkle not responding to Hearn butAj has Deontay’s personal number and has reached out and Wilder is not responding. That female s#hit. Wilder is right Americans are sensitive I just didn’t want to believe him
          As an American I do not want to see Joshua frozen out of a truly meaningful fight with both Fury and Wilder. However I can understand those who feel that way because of the Way Hearn treated Wilder in his dealings with him. Hopefully all of the hurt feelings and spiteful actions and reactions can be set aside for what is the best for all concerned.

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          • pillowfists98
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            #95
            Snub?? Wtf is this guy talking about? Wilder's team has been busy ignoring Hearn and not even trying to make the fight. **** off.

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              #96
              Originally posted by earl-hickey
              yes because he doesn't NEED them

              More money + 75% of the belts = why should he bend over and take it up the ass from them?

              It makes NO sense to do that, that's why he isn't even talking about it yet they are both on a relentless PR campaign against him

              As a FAN I want him to offer wilder 50/50 and go to alabama and knock the absoloute **** out of him in front of his hometown fans, then get on the mic and call them a bunch of hilbily trash, and that america sucks **** at heavyweight boxing.

              As a LOGICAL person i fully understand why he doesn't do that when life changing sums of money are on the line.
              Also I'm sure that as a logical person you wouldn't want to start something that might come back to bite you in the ass.

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              • OldTerry
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                #97
                Originally posted by earl-hickey
                First of all, the main issue here is Wilder

                Fury, he's a different case and I suspect that would be a LOT easier of a fight to make than the one with Wilder

                but they are focused on Wilder because he's got a belt and has the history

                Well, Wilder already LOST to Fury and if he loses again his "legacy" will be a guy who beat 39 bums and one 40 year old cuban and got schooled twice by Fury

                So Wilder can crow all he wants but lets face facts he's on VERY thin ice right now in terms of his career.

                If Fury schools wilder again, then everyone forgets about him, and I think AJ vs Fury WILL happen in the second half of the year for undisputed.

                That's why i'm saying wilder needs to stop talking trash and consider his options right now, because he showed very little in the first fight to convince me he can do any better let alone actually BEAT a fury who will be a lot closer to his best shape in the rematch
                You make some great points especially how Wilder's star would be dimmed by a loss to Joshua, especially if it was a bad loss. The truth though is in the world of boxing and the way promotions are presented Wilder can make a lot of money without ever facing Joshua. It wouldn't be the kind of money per fight as a Joshua fight would be but it would be the less risky route to take, similar to the path Hearn has had Joshua on.

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                • Noelanthony
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by OldTerry
                  As an American I do not want to see Joshua frozen out of a truly meaningful fight with both Fury and Wilder. However I can understand those who feel that way because of the Way Hearn treated Wilder in his dealings with him. Hopefully all of the hurt feelings and spiteful actions and reactions can be set aside for what is the best for all concerned.
                  Well said pal. To be frank Wilder and Fury will have a rematch it’s a great fight so I have no complaints but I’m just questioning why Wilder is so insistent on the rematch. If it was really about running it back to make a wrong , right I can respect that but it’s not that.

                  AJ will fight whoever and earn 20 million. As a fan I want to see him in the big fights but even when Wilder and Fury fight fans will demand that the winner takes on Joshua so it’s not really a big deal.

                  Not to mention if Joshua is really scared it has worked out perfectly then.

                  The only person that is suffering is me . I don’t want to see him fight Whyte ,it’s a formality fight. I would rather see him fight Ortiz. Make an example out of him. Maybe have Whyte vs Breazeale as a co main event. That will get 100,000 into Wembley.

                  Or the unthinkable Wilder vs Fury at Wembley, whytevs Brezeale co main event April 13th

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                  • OldTerry
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Fabes88
                    Ok and collectively fury and wilder managed to draw aj’s purse against povetkin. It’s funny how American posters are trying to paint a picture that aj is irrelevant but he can single handidly outdraw those who think they deserve a 50/50 split
                    AJ as a boxing talent is certainly relevant and to Fury and Wilder a threat as well. He though is currently not relevant to their ability to make decent money fighting other fighters rather than Joshua. What is going on is a power struggle on the business end of things and has nothing to do with who actually should be fighting who.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by MC Hammer
                      I will say that it was a good job by Fury. I still support my fighters after losses. I know that the fight will happen, but it won't be next. I'm happy that Wilder will get what he deserves in the fight rather than to take the relative crumbs that Hearn has previously offered.
                      I will award you green k for your response but when we beat you and I hear you start whinging you will get some red Fury..... you have been warned

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