Srs question, why did Manny Pacquiao turn down random blood testing back then?

[travestyny]

I did not ignore your post, I have cleary said Floyd’s excuse was dehydration. Multivitamins and Vitamins are not given to someone who is dehydrated you got me?

No, I don't got you. That makes no sense. You act like giving vitamin C to a dehydrated person is a crime. Vitamin C and multivitamins are added to IV fluid to aid in recovery and for their own benefits, NOT to mask for a drug test. Do you understand that yet? An IV infusion masks BY DILUTION. The sample was tested by two different professionals working within completely different organizations to ensure that it was not diluted. You refuse to address this.

I just debunked your theory about rhabdo lol!

When did that happen? What's clear is that you're failing at your agenda and you're becoming frustrated.

Stiverne fought a 12 round fight with Rhabdo., yet he wasn't in the hospital before it. Hmmm. I bet if he would have had an IV the night before, he wouldn't have had to be hospitalized afterward. Same for Dos Santos in the UFC. You're a smart guy, so maybe you can figure that out.

I dont have to keep repeating myself. I challenge you and the other guy to show my posts about rhabdo and dehydration to a physician to prove Im no BS.

lol!You and the other guy are ganging up on me eh?lol! Read my whole posts and find out that I did not ignore anything. You could also read my posts and answers to the other guy.

I have clearly stated my case and back up my claims with facts to the best of my knowledge and ability. Come back to me when you have reasonable things to say. Peace out✌��

You're running away, but you haven't explained how an undiluted urine sample was masked by a method that masks via dilution.

Why run away. If you want to discuss this, let's discuss it. You suddenly don't want to discuss it any more.

oh....and by the way.....

USADA’s main concern is about athlete’s health now? lol! Thats not what their paid to do lol, thats the athletics commission job to oversee athletes understand?

This is from WADA's TUEC guidelines concerning IV infusions.

5. Consequences to Health if Treatment is Withheld
These will be dependent on the clinical situation. However, in case of a medical emergency, a possible consequence of withholding treatment could result in serious harm to health or even death. Therefore, the health and well-being of the athlete must always remain the priority. Consequently, when an IV infusion is considered by medical personnel as a potential treatment option, an athlete’s medical needs should be assessed in the same way as any other patient. If an athlete is judged by medical personnel to be clinically unstable and/or in an emergency situation, treatment with IV fluids should never be withheld on grounds that the method is on the List of Prohibited Substances and Methods.

https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...1_july2018.pdf

Maybe if you would stop with the agenda, you'll learn something.

[CHOWWOKKA]

yes, give and take!! floyd demanded something that he has never done before and asked for random blood test.

so manny demanded something that he has never done before and asked for a cut off.

if you asks me, that's a fair trade!!!

this is called negotiation. it's not called what floyd wants floyd gets.

False
#Fakenews
#OverTheWall

[tatot]

No, I don't got you. That makes no sense. You act like giving vitamin C to a dehydrated person is a crime. Vitamin C and multivitamins are added to IV fluid to aid in recovery and for their own benefits, NOT to mask for a drug test. Do you understand that yet? An IV infusion masks BY DILUTION. The sample was tested by two different professionals working within completely different organizations to ensure that it was not diluted. You refuse to address this.



When did that happen? What's clear is that you're failing at your agenda and you're becoming frustrated.

Stiverne fought a 12 round fight with Rhabdo., yet he wasn't in the hospital before it. Hmmm. I bet if he would have had an IV the night before, he wouldn't have had to be hospitalized afterward. Same for Dos Santos in the UFC. You're a smart guy, so maybe you can figure that out.




You're running away, but you haven't explained how an undiluted urine sample was masked by a method that masks via dilution.

Why run away. If you want to discuss this, let's discuss it. You suddenly don't want to discuss it any more.

oh....and by the way.....



This is from WADA's TUEC guidelines concerning IV infusions.




Maybe if you would stop with the agenda, you'll learn something.

Learn what exactly and what agenda?? Dont have any and I have no idea what you’re talking about,l lol! By the way, multivitamins and vitamin C can be taken in pill forms. Centrum and Ascorbic acid and dont have to be IV infusion lol!

Rhabdomyolysis is a serious condition like what I have mentioned, where is your proof that Floyd had suffered from this? None, all speculations and assumptions. At the end of the day, I know what Im talking about and backed up my posts with facts and not just speculations and assumptions.

[Zaroku]

I think you have been served a plate of truth. Come strong homie, or don’t come at all!

[Zaroku]

No, I don't got you. That makes no sense. You act like giving vitamin C to a dehydrated person is a crime. Vitamin C and multivitamins are added to IV fluid to aid in recovery and for their own benefits, NOT to mask for a drug test. Do you understand that yet? An IV infusion masks BY DILUTION. The sample was tested by two different professionals working within completely different organizations to ensure that it was not diluted. You refuse to address this.



When did that happen? What's clear is that you're failing at your agenda and you're becoming frustrated.

Stiverne fought a 12 round fight with Rhabdo., yet he wasn't in the hospital before it. Hmmm. I bet if he would have had an IV the night before, he wouldn't have had to be hospitalized afterward. Same for Dos Santos in the UFC. You're a smart guy, so maybe you can figure that out.




You're running away, but you haven't explained how an undiluted urine sample was masked by a method that masks via dilution.

Why run away. If you want to discuss this, let's discuss it. You suddenly don't want to discuss it any more.

oh....and by the way.....



This is from WADA's TUEC guidelines concerning IV infusions.




Maybe if you would stop with the agenda, you'll learn something.

Brother, from another mother... we are dealing with idiots, and azz clowns. Jhonny is a lil azz clown fool, but in a cute funny way..

We are dealing with know it all(nothing) azz clowns, who think on trolling makes their lives better? Worth living?

You get the point.

What we have here, with exceptions is a failure to develop fully, mentally.

We got PB32 posting pics of other people wearing watches he can’t afford.

Jhonny is gonna post part of his chew toy collection, with some watches around him.

Jhonny ain’t no joke. .. he’s a thief, a boss playa, etc. he gets kisses from Wimmin who call me uncle...

[IceTrayDaGang]

why do yall always do this???!! every other month or so someone will bring drug testing up and then 10103293929292 pages here we come!

[IceTrayDaGang]

False
#Fakenews
#OverTheWall

who did floyd demand blood testing from prior to pac?

[travestyny]

Learn what exactly and what agenda?? Dont have any and I have no idea what you’re talking about,l lol! By the way, multivitamins and vitamin C can be taken in pill forms. Centrum and Ascorbic acid and dont have to be IV infusion lol!

Jesus Christ. No one said they can't be in pill form, but why would you give it in pill form when you're already giving the patient an IV infusion???

Your big evidence here is that he took Vitamin C. lol. I mean, I don't even understand why you are still going on about this.

Rhabdomyolysis is a serious condition like what I have mentioned, where is your proof that Floyd had suffered from this? None, all speculations and assumptions. At the end of the day, I know what Im talking about and backed up my posts with facts and not just speculations and assumptions.

Of course it can be a serious condition. That's why it's best treated before the event instead of after like what happened to Stiverne and Dos Santos. Even if it is suspected, the right thing for USADA to do would have been to grant the IV infusion, which was my point before you began ranting like a brat.

What are the symptoms of Rhabdo?

Extremely dark Urine. Check.
Dehydration: Check
Muscle pain in the shoulders. Check.

Causes:
extreme muscle strain from intense workouts. Check
Usually associated with shoulder injuries (Mayweather stated both of his shoulders were messed up for this fight, and he had surgery on his shoulder directly after the Berto fight). Check.

Treatment:
IV infusion.


Hmmm. Good luck disproving it without his medical records.

[Sleeks]

Well technically pacquiao is the reason, because Floyd never felt the need to ask for it until that fight was being negotiated. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against the testing, it’s just kind of a strange look coming from a fighter is all. Up until that point, it was unheard of for a fighter to act that way...for better or for worse.

It is an undisputed fact that Floyd was willing to make the fact as long as Pacquiao agreed to the type of blood testing that is considered standard today. Whether he wanted the blood testing out of fear or not really doesn't matter. He was willing to make the fight as long as it happened on a level playing field.

[travestyny]

Brother, from another mother... we are dealing with idiots, and azz clowns. Jhonny is a lil azz clown fool, but in a cute funny way..

We are dealing with know it all(nothing) azz clowns, who think on trolling makes their lives better? Worth living?

You get the point.

What we have here, with exceptions is a failure to develop fully, mentally.

We got PB32 posting pics of other people wearing watches he can’t afford.

Jhonny is gonna post part of his chew toy collection, with some watches around him.

Jhonny ain’t no joke. .. he’s a thief, a boss playa, etc. he gets kisses from Wimmin who call me uncle...

lmao. I was wondering if PB32 will accept Jhonny's challenge. That will definitely be the greatest battle in the history of the dome....well, right behind Chollo vs. Glove!