Comments Thread For: Warren Reacts To Hearn's Offer Claim For Joshua vs. Fury

[MC Hammer]

That's what Fury wanted. Hearn said he can have either. So makes no difference.

Means nothing? How so. Unification takes precedence over a mandatory. Are you new to boxing?

Just because Hearn said that's what he wanted doesn't make it true.

And if unification truly took precedence over mandatories then why has AJ been so hung up on mandatories? Didn't Hearn say 4/13 may be the last day for the Wilder fight because the sanctioning bodies would be calling the mandatories saying:

“Another reason why the undisputed title fight must happen now is because, sooner or later, we’ll have different mandatory challengers,”

So i guess those were just excuses huh?

[Robbie Barrett]

Just because Hearn said that's what he wanted doesn't make it true.

And if unification truly took precedence over mandatories then why has AJ been so hung up on mandatories? Didn't Hearn say 4/13 may be the last day for the Wilder fight because the sanctioning bodies would be calling the mandatories? So i guess those were just excuses huh

Hearn said he can have the money or 40% so what does t matter. The 40% offer is there.

If the orgs force you to sign a fight, you can't fight someone else when it's already signed.

[MC Hammer]

Hearn said he can have the money or 40% so what does t matter. The 40% offer is there.

If the orgs force you to sign a fight, you can't fight someone else when it's already signed.

To quote Hearn: “Another reason why the undisputed title fight must happen now is because, sooner or later, we’ll have different mandatory challengers,”

Here Hearn is saying, before any mandatories were even signed that the fight would have to happen before mandatories are even mentioned. So again, it seems like matchroom have been using the spectre of mandatory fights to duck.

And, the WBC have forced a mandatory from Wilder in a little over 2 weeks, forcing them to sign as you say, so AJ offers mean nothing.

[Robbie Barrett]

To quote Hearn: “Another reason why the undisputed title fight must happen now is because, sooner or later, we’ll have different mandatory challengers,”

Here Hearn is saying, before any mandatories were even signed that the fight would have to happen before mandatories are even mentioned. So again, it seems like matchroom have been using the spectre of mandatory fights to duck.

And, the WBC have forced a mandatory from Wilder in a little over 2 weeks, forcing them to sign as you say, so AJ offers mean nothing.

If the fight doesn't happen now, Joshua fights in April and Wilder fights in May or June. What if the orgs call for a mandatory straight after Joshua's fight? He will be forced to sign a mandatory fight and can't do anything about it. A little bit of thought and you'd work things like this out yourself.

[MC Hammer]

If the fight doesn't happen now, Joshua fights in April and Wilder fights in May or June. What if the orgs call for a mandatory straight after Joshua's fight? He will be forced to sign a mandatory fight and can;t do anything about it. A little but of thought and you'd work things like this out yourself.

This directly contradicts what you've been saying the whole time lol. Wilder and Fury is a mandatory fight RIGHT NOW. So they are forced to sign a fight. Meaning that, as you have just written 'THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT". So, the AJ offers mean nothing right now.

These are YOUR points YOUR own logic, and you somehow confused yourself with them smh.

[Robbie Barrett]

This directly contradicts what you've been saying the whole time lol. Wilder and Fury is a mandatory fight RIGHT NOW. So they are forced to sign a fight. Meaning that, as you have just written 'THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT". So, the AJ offers mean nothing right now.

These are YOUR points YOUR own logic, and you somehow confused yourself with them smh.

If they agree a unification before they don't have to sign the manadtory. FFS

They won't be able to do that if Joshua is still waiting for Wilder to fight in May or June. FFS use your brain pal.

[Bronx2245]

Bob Arum spittin' facts in Ring Magazine interview!
January 15, 2019:

There is one division, however, where he will only have a cursory interest, and that’s among the big men.

“You’ve got to understand the problem,” he said of the heavyweight division. “It will never be vital in the United States anymore. And the reason for that is our great heavyweights, great kids, particularly African-American kids who would go into boxing, are now playing football or basketball, like Lebron James. Those would be the heavyweights. In England, in Europe what do you have? They can’t play soccer, they’re too big. They don’t play basketball, they can’t play hockey because they’re too big for hockey so the sport they go into is boxing. It used to be in the United States when basketball and footballers made no money but now a big, strong athletic kid is not going into boxing, he’s going into basketball. The huge guys we have in football if they’d started out would have been great, great heavyweights. We don’t have them, so in the United States the heavyweights have to have something special in order to resonate because don’t you think there’s a difference from when I first started? Ninety-something per cent of the world class heavyweights, 95 per cent, were Americans, and now there’s one."


[And] Wilder-Fury resonated because of Fury. He was such a good salesman. It didn’t resonate because of Wilder but because Fury came on as a nut, a talker and so forth and that’s why people paid attention. Fury is a big draw in the United States because of one, his personality, second his performance and third how he recovered from that knockdown in the 12th round.”

https://www.******.com/552397-bob-ar...erning-bodies/

[kafkod]

Just because Hearn said that's what he wanted doesn't make it true.

And if unification truly took precedence over mandatories then why has AJ been so hung up on mandatories? Didn't Hearn say 4/13 may be the last day for the Wilder fight because the sanctioning bodies would be calling the mandatories saying:

“Another reason why the undisputed title fight must happen now is because, sooner or later, we’ll have different mandatory challengers,”

So i guess those were just excuses huh?

Neither Warren nor Fury are shrinking violets. If Hearn was lying about Fury not wanting a split offer, we would have heard from both of them by now.

Hearn's offer to Wilder is for a UK fight, that means a major football stadium like Wembley would be needed to get maximum revenue. You have to book a Wembley date months in advance, and Hearn might not get a one at all after the football season starts.

Unification usually does trump a mando, but once a mando is ordered the unification has to happen quickly. That wouldn't be possible unless Hearn already has a stadium date booked.

[MC Hammer]

If they agree a unification before they don't have to sign the manadtory. FFS

They won't be able to do that if Joshua is still waiting for Wilder to fight in May or June. FFS use your brain pal.

They usually give anywhere from 60-90 days to make an agreement, so yeah they would still have time, plenty of it in fact. And he can have a contract in place for the winner before hand, just like they did with Klitchko, so again you're not making any sense.

Also, didn't Hearn say that he wanted the fight agreed to before the Dec.1 date because it would take too long to negotiate, now you expect them to agree after less than 2 weeks. Makes sense.

[Robbie Barrett]

They usually give anywhere from 60-90 days to make an agreement, so yeah they would still have time, plenty of it in fact. And he can have a contract in place for the winner before hand, just like they did with Klitchko, so again you're not making any sense.

Also, didn't Hearn say that he wanted the fight agreed to before the Dec.1 date because it would take too long to negotiate, now you expect them to agree after less than 2 weeks. Makes sense.

What org gives them 3 months to come to an agreement? You're talking absolute bollocks. It's usually 30 days. You're lying and tying yourself in knots trying to defend Wilders ducking.