Comments Thread For: Canelo vs. Golovkin Trilogy Targeted For May 4, Says De La Hoya

[Boxing-1013]

I don't understand how I'm biased. I normally give at least 1 swing round to the person I didn't pick going in. Me - Lol come on...In most fights there a few 'swing rounds'...what rounds did you give Jacobs and what rounds did you give GGG? GGG pretty clearly knicked rd 1, won 3 4 5 easy. Won 8 and 9. Only relatively clear rounds for Jacobs were 6 and 10. 1,2,7,11,12 were all fairly close, with GGG winning the punch stats in 3/5 rounds. Giving Danny 4 rounds was pretty clearly the right score. To give the challenger the decision when he just survives is absurd and shows your bias, tbh. Jacobs battled well but he felt if he went 12 rounds they would gift him the title on his home soil like they just did previously with Ward/Kov, but fortunately that didn't happen. Speaking of - how did you score Ward/Kov 1? I guess Canelo shouldn't be taken seriously either cause he also thought Jacobs won. Me - Clearly gamesmanship from Canelo...trying to get under GGG's skin and also make the case that if anyone goes 12 with GGG they deserve to win...that was his gameplan in the first fight, avoid direct contact with GGG and try to go 12 rounds. He tried to do what Jacobs tried to do I don't remember GGG unequivocally hurting Jacobs. Me - Lol! I mean hurt him bad in round 4. He beat his ass the rest of the round and also into round 5 as Jacobs still hadn't recovered. Pretty clearly hurt him at the end of round 8. And what about the end of round 9??? Lol I believe more people felt Jacobs won vs GGG than Canelo & he fought him twice.

People place Errol Spence ahead of Thurman but Thurman has better wins. It means nothing. It's just my opinion on who's the best. Like if they actually fight. Of course my list is different if we're talking status & accolades in the division.what would that list be? Charlo just fought Korobov and it was basically a draw? If you watch the Andrade/Culcay fight you can clearly see Andrade was off. I said during the fight live, this is not the Andrade I'm used to seeing & this was round 5 or 6. Culcay did nothing impressive. Culcay didn’t impress Andrade just underperformed. Andrade was sick & had no legs according to him, they fought in Germany, remember. lot of excuses there

The part I bolded in the last paragraph is troll worthy. Korobov & Derevyanchenko c'mon man.. isn't the reason Canelo & GGG in your top 3, cause of their accolades? That's contradictory, Korobov & Derevyanchenko have zero professional accolades..

? What are you talking about. Korobov just essentially fought Charlo to a draw. There was no real separation between the two of them. And Korobov has a win over Uzcategui, which is probably better than Charlo's only real other win, which is over Trout? So what accolades does Charlo have exactly? Dervy has a win over Johnson and also went 12 hard rounds with Danny Jacobs - Andrade's only win in his whole career so far is a 154 SD over Vanes? I mean what are you talking about with pro accolades so far for him or Charlo lol? It's actually not even debatable dude - at 160 and just regardless of weight class even, Dervy and Korobov have done more than both Andrade and Charlo as pros. None of them have done a whole lot of anything, but what exactly have Charlo and Andrade done that are better wins than Uzi and Tureano Johnson? All they have are a Vanes SD and a Trout 7-5 win lol.
Not to mention when you factor in the amateur pedigrees of Korobov and Dervy, they are clearly more accomplished there than Charlo.

Anyway I like 160 Charlo and Andrade and think they are good fighters, but they haven't really even stepped up to A level yet. When Charlo has stepped up to B level he has basically shown to be as good as the guy he is fighting (Trout and Korobov). Andrade stepped up twice as well and showed he was about as good as Vanes and Culcay. Not terrible but again all those guys are B list at best. That you reacted so indignantly to the pretty clear truth that Charlo and Andrade have not even done as much as a Korobov or a Dervy, I mean it again shows your bias. We all have some bias in us, so it's whatever. But it's just strange that you say that they not only pass the eye test for you (that is understandable, although they have looked average every time they step up,and haven't even stepped to A level yet) but they also have done a lot as pros...(just isn't true).

[Bardamu]

g isn't going to be able to fight in May. His face needs more time to heal. It takes longer than 8 or 9 months to recover from facial reconstructive surgery. Its good g wants to get back and get that final payday, but he needs to listen to the doctors and surgeons.

[Mindgames]

why was Golovkin unable to "stand and fight like a Mexican"?

..... serious question.....

..... why was Golovkin unwilling/unable to follow his corners instructions and fight Canelo, instead of trying to box him?

he was no older, and no slower, than when he ran around for 6 months pleading with Canelo to stand and fight like a Mexican..... so, what changed?

what changed when shlt got real ?

It looks easy i know, from the outside, fighting a younger faster elite boxer. Maybe, if Golovkin was no older, you need to ask why Canelo underperformed the first time then? Was he worried because he thought Golovkin might have too much power for him, so it made him so cautious that he actually backed off the entire fight, against a man who didnt look exactly like a killer against Jacobs? You might ask that question, but it doesn't really matter to me, because i asked where the myth of Canelo the puncher came from, thats the question you replied to, but all this talk later you've shown absolutely nothing on the subject. Btw, shlt is always real inside the ring, these guys take thousands of punches from professionals who have knocked other professionals unconscious and sometimes kill them. Its this shlt thats not real, which is why you can keep coming here embarrassing yourself 😂

[aboutfkntime]

It looks easy i know, from the outside, fighting a younger faster elite boxer. Maybe, if Golovkin was no older, you need to ask why Canelo underperformed the first time then? Was he worried because he thought Golovkin might have too much power for him, so it made him so cautious that he actually backed off the entire fight, against a man who didnt look exactly like a killer against Jacobs? You might ask that question, but it doesn't really matter to me, because i asked where the myth of Canelo the puncher came from, thats the question you replied to, but all this talk later you've shown absolutely nothing on the subject. Btw, shlt is always real inside the ring, these guys take thousands of punches from professionals who have knocked other professionals unconscious and sometimes kill them. Its this shlt thats not real, which is why you can keep coming here embarrassing yourself 😂

cut your bullshlt son

Jabkin shat the bed over all that " fight like a Mexican " rubbish..... because Canelo was pushing his shlt in with clean HARD punches

Jabkin also refused to follow his corner's instructions to fight Canelo, for the exact same reason..... because Canelo was pushing his shlt in with clean HARD punches

1) that is plainly obvious, so cut your bullshlt son

2) it is HIGHLY fkn amusing, that you are pretending not to know that, while insisting that I am embarrassing myself loooool

[Mindgames]

cut your bullshlt son

Jabkin shat the bed over all that " fight like a Mexican " rubbish..... because Canelo was pushing his shlt in with clean HARD punches

Jabkin also refused to follow his corner's instructions to fight Canelo, for the exact same reason..... because Canelo was pushing his shlt in with clean HARD punches

1) that is plainly obvious, so cut your bullshlt son

2) it is HIGHLY fkn amusing, that you are pretending not to know that, while insisting that I am embarrassing myself loooool

Look at how emotional you get in defence of Saul. I just stated how hes not a puncher, and he's record backs that up and you go full blown hysterical. Canelo is not a puncher. Doesnt stop smaller older welters and even right hand haymakers landing flush dont dent old, slower middles. Hes still not a puncher, despite you trying to change the subject all the time. Your just upset that your latest crush Billy Joe had to drug up for the confidence to fight Andrade. I mean, hes still braver than you, because hes a fighter, and your a jealous wannabe, talking about people getting their "shlt pushed in" when thats likely whats happening to you between rants 😂

[aboutfkntime]

Look at how emotional you get in defence of Saul. I just stated how hes not a puncher, and he's record backs that up and you go full blown hysterical. Canelo is not a puncher. Doesnt stop smaller older welters and even right hand haymakers landing flush dont dent old, slower middles. Hes still not a puncher, despite you trying to change the subject all the time. Your just upset that your latest crush Billy Joe had to drug up for the confidence to fight Andrade. I mean, hes still braver than you, because hes a fighter, and your a jealous wannabe, talking about people getting their "shlt pushed in" when thats likely whats happening to you between rants 😂

nope

I said this conversation is uninteresting.... and I said power is over-rated

Look at how emotional you get when I point out the reason why Jabkin shat the bed over all that "fight like a Mexican" rubbish

I am a Mayweather fan, I don't give a fk about " powah doe "

clinical textbook skills, are where it's at.....

as Plodkin learned when Canelo was pushing his shlt in

[Mindgames]

nope

I said this conversation is uninteresting.... and I said power is over-rated

Look at how emotional you get when I point out the reason why Jabkin shat the bed over all that "fight like a Mexican" rubbish

I am a Mayweather fan, I don't give a fk about " powah doe "

clinical textbook skills, are where it's at.....

as Plodkin learned when Canelo was pushing his shlt in

No emotion from me mate, no calling fighters silly names and talking about shlt getting real from this end.Just said Canelo isn't a puncher and you came rushing to hes defence with a bunch of irrelevance. But he's still not a puncher even after all that.. ��

[SHOOTALLCLOWNS]

Well yeah of course. In the financial sense it is in Gs best interests. I have no argument against that. It was moreso directed at detractors who will not give Canelo credit for a great win and another fight gives Canelo another opportunity to do it in better fashion. Honestly I like the matchup n GGG gets another chance to change the outcome.. I'm interested in Canelos gameplan though and what modifications he'll implement

maybe canelo would get some credit if he actually beat ggg decisively without controversy like by knockout. ggg clearly won the first fight and neither did much in the rematch to prove who was truly superior. he will be 37 years old in the third fight and is no longer in his physical prime. if canelo gets in another close controversial fight with ggg again the detractors have a point. both guys need to make a statement canelo has to go out and dominate and shut people up about the judges always gifting him fights. ggg needs to ko him so that he doesn't leave in it the hands of the judges again. both should go to war.

[aboutfkntime]

No emotion from me mate, no calling fighters silly names and talking about shlt getting real from this end.Just said Canelo isn't a puncher and you came rushing to hes defence with a bunch of irrelevance. But he's still not a puncher even after all that.. ��

you can call him, or not call him..... whatever you like

it matters not

fwiw, I will no longer be referring to Jabkin as a Mexican..... he just got his citizenship revoked

[aboutfkntime]

maybe canelo would get some credit if he actually beat ggg decisively without controversy like by knockout. ggg clearly won the first fight and neither did much in the rematch to prove who was truly superior. he will be 37 years old in the third fight and is no longer in his physical prime. if canelo gets in another close controversial fight with ggg again the detractors have a point. both guys need to make a statement canelo has to go out and dominate and shut people up about the judges always gifting him fights. ggg needs to ko him so that he doesn't leave in it the hands of the judges again. both should go to war.

Golovkin knows he will lose to Canelo again

which is probably why he has no interest in that fight LMAO

so what the hell will Golovkin do next if no Canelo ?

he will not fight a threat, but he will not retire

looks like he will continue knocking out bums for $2M a fight

he is literally just a waste of space now