Is Luis Ortiz the greatest myth in boxing history?

[SeGoodland]

I wouldn't bet Aj & Fury beat King Kong & vice versa so I would like to see it. Let's see what happens.

If that fight gets made then we'll put some points up.

Fingers crossed we (at least) get an announcement of some big HW fights soon. Even if is Fury/Wilder 2.

[Rubber Ducky]

He did sign with hearn, promised the aj fight and got fekked over.....

No he refused to sign with Hearn and only agreed to a fight by fight basis arrangement, hence why he only fought twice for Hearn during a 2 month period. Unless you think Hearn signed Ortiz for a 2 month contract then obviously this was the case, I mean who signs a 2 month contract or even offers a 2 fight contract?

[Laligalaliga]

300+ amateur fights with nearly all wins. Only one loss on pro record, only guy to seriously nearly finish wilder in the pros and to smash jennings in that fashion, only the great wlad couldnt even do it himself. Now you tell me what arreola washington martin szpilka molina breazeale have thats so great and how exactly they didnt skip the line and earned the shot? You are the one dodging hard questions and just going around them and being extremely contradictory because those guys had nothing to offer either, didnt really bring in big numbers, were undercard fighters too .... and newsflash, not everyone in pro boxing has a gold medal, let alone a bronze one. You make it sound like everyone who dont have it is utter crap. 300+ amateur fights with multiple cuban tourneys and playa girons is still impressive as hell. You have double standards and dumb baseless arguments, which read out as ducksauce. Ortiz more than deserves a title shot IF other street sweepers and nobodies and vastly inferior fighters to him got it for no apparent reason. I'll watch as you somehow dodge all this relevant logical information and come up with your same old schtick. You are a typical modern age 'boxing fan', ******ed and spouting out the same recycled crap promoters say when they want to duck someone

Am not interested in those names you mentioned, they are irrelevant. Those are the bums they feed wilder with to make him look like a KO king.
We have many good fighters with just one loss or no loss at all. so thats not an achievement.
The bottom line is he has got his shot and lost, let him join the queue again. That's my point.

[Laligalaliga]

What was so valuable about molina and arreola when they fought wilder? Answer the question, dont dodge it.

I will bet anything you were the typical casual saying ortiz was great before the wilder fight and then when wilder beat him after a tough fight he became crap and overrated to you. Ps for 'just an undercard fighter' demanding and making 500k in his last 2 fights is not bad at all. Sure he seems to have some value, his stock went up after the wilder effort.

I have said it before, am not interested in the bums been fed to Wilder. Hez a bum beater since his pro career.

On the other hand Ortiz didn't get 500k beating that bum kauffman. Where did you get that info from?
His best pay is against wilder which happens to be that $500k which was less than 25%.

[Laligalaliga]

100

everyone is too "scared" to fight ortiz, except for malik scott and dave allen apparently

Who amongst them did his management offer contract to fight?

And what do you mean by 100?

[nubianpiye]

Ortiz is overacted and not much good. His only decent win is Bryant Jennings he didn't accomplish anything major at amateur level. And won't as a pro either.

[j.razor]

smiles... why this back and forth thing.
The brother jumped ship and got KTFO at the other end.
Whose fault?

K.O.'d by the hardest puncher in the game & one of the hardest punchers in history.

[j.razor]

what you like doesn't matter in making a fight.
When the other side understand their position, fight is made easily without breaking sweat.

What I like does matter, I'm a paying customer. I want to see King Kong vs Aj.

[j.razor]

His resume is definitely lacking and doesn't live up to the reputation he's earned by some as being ducked by everyone.

Yes he's all risk and no reward which is partially why his resume is lacking but he's also made some bad career choices too. He backed out of 2 fights with Ustinov which would of made him mandatory for the WBA when Fury vacated the belts. So he would of either fought Wlad for the vacant belt or Joshua for the vacant belt.

Then he of course signed with Haymon instead of Hearn killing any chance of the Joshua fight and does anyone think if he had signed with Hearn instead he wouldn't of gotten chances vs other Hearn heavies? I think had he signed with Hearn instead he would of gotten further high profile fights instead of being side lined fighting nobodies.

That's some straight What big fights does hearn get made?

[j.razor]

You are right about one thing at least. See, you are not such a mentally crippled monkey after all

Sadly, with guys like hearn around, fans have zero say anymore nowadays. Its not 50/50 fans/business today, its 100% money money money. We can thank floyd for that 'protect your 0 at all mfin cost' mentality too.

Floyd fought everyone..They were ducking Floyd when he was "Pretty Boy" & when he became "Money" then all of the sudden everyone was past their prime..lol