Is Luis Ortiz the greatest myth in boxing history?

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  • Laligalaliga
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    #191
    Originally posted by j.razor
    K.O.'d by the hardest puncher in the game & one of the hardest punchers in history.
    He got KTFO, thats the point.
    Let him join the queue again and wait for his turn.

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    • JSN006
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      #192
      Originally posted by Laligalaliga
      He got KTFO, thats the point.
      Let him join the queue again and wait for his turn.
      You would make a great hearn type promoter. You care zero for fans opinions and wants, for data, news, informations and facts. You just want to duck and dive and dodge hard questions, spew the corporate filth record, and come up with contradictory or outright false excuses and statements like brings nothing, doesnt fill seats, didnt earn his shot etc when the other guys getting title shots are just the same. And this is a withouth a doubt, if you ask all real experts, a top 5 guy in the hw division. Wilder fury aj ortiz whyte miller parker .... leaders in the top ten but for me its the top 3 and ortiz and miller at first 5 positions.

      You're cute, ladygaga. Now go on, amuse me some more casual .... repeat your broken record schtick while avoiding hard questions like what did molina and breazeale and arreola do to get a title shot according to your own dumb contradictory criteria, corporate millennial puppet.
      Last edited by JSN006; 01-11-2019, 07:03 PM.

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      • Laligalaliga
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        #193
        Originally posted by JSN006
        Thanks for bottling the question and confirming you are a phony. Apparently they are relevant to you because they 'earned their shot and got in line'. Isnt thats how you said title shots are granted? But you cant even stick to your words or have some consistency in your crap logic when the kitchen gets hot. Fail.
        Those are the guys wilder was fed with for title defences, most of them didn't merit it just like we have Breazeale at the moment. That's soft work for WBC and her politics.
        You seems to be too daft to accept that Ortiz already got his title shot. What else dnt you understand?

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        • Curtis Harper
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          #194
          The myth that Aaron Pryor would have beaten every ass that ''ducked'' him is a solid myth.

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          • Toffee
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            #195
            Again, who is ducking him?

            If he's ranked 5 and just lost to the guy at 3... why would 1 or 2 need to fight him to the point he's being 'ducked'?

            Whyte is understandably looking at the top 3. Everyone is. Ortiz just had his shot and got knocked out.

            We can all quote famous examples of fighters ducking others. But it's massively overused on here for the current era.

            There might be a fight that you'd like to see, but that doesn't mean they're ducking if it doesn't get made.

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            • Lopez_Boxing
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              #196
              Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
              Yeah he's overrated like a lot of the other heavyweights currently.
              This is a comment that is true. Not the deepest most talented division.

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              • JSN006
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                #197
                Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                Those are the guys wilder was fed with for title defences, most of them didn't merit it just like we have Breazeale at the moment. That's soft work for WBC and her politics.
                You seems to be too daft to accept that Ortiz already got his title shot. What else dnt you understand?
                Is there a limit of only one title shot per lifetime? Lmao youre beyond ******ed. Who said ortiz only deserves a title shot? Whyte miller parker fury et al dont have titles, but they sure love ducking him. As a boxIng fan you should push for the best fighting the best, and ortiz is one of the best. Its not true he doesnt offer anything, hes only 2 in the wbc and 8 in the ibf. Also the wbc had him as an eliminator option for whyte to get to the title, but whyte ducked it. Isnt that your own criteria of 'working for a title shot'? Cant even stick to your word and create a coherent sensible argument? You're a ****ing mess with no brain.


                Its not just wilder whos been fed cans and ppl who didnt deserve a shot, its parker when he was champ and aj too. But i thought u said title shots are all carefully selected and vetted and given out to guys who got in line and worked for it huh? Pathetic, you got owned hard and have no comeback.

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                • True-Boxing-Fan
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                  #198
                  Originally posted by ELHITMAN606
                  It's funny how he's overrated now that Wilder beat him
                  It’s funny how Wilder fanboys try and build him up as a boogeyman that he beat.

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                  • Laligalaliga
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                    #199
                    Originally posted by JSN006
                    Is there a limit of only one title shot per lifetime? Lmao youre beyond ******ed. Who said ortiz only deserves a title shot? Whyte miller parker fury et al dont have titles, but they sure love ducking him. As a boxIng fan you should push for the best fighting the best, and ortiz is one of the best. Its not true he doesnt offer anything, hes only 2 in the wbc and 8 in the ibf. Also the wbc had him as an eliminator option for whyte to get to the title, but whyte ducked it. Isnt that your own criteria of 'working for a title shot'? Cant even stick to your word and create a coherent sensible argument? You're a ****ing mess with no brain.


                    Its not just wilder whos been fed cans and ppl who didnt deserve a shot, its parker when he was champ and aj too. But i thought u said title shots are all carefully selected and vetted and given out to guys who got in line and worked for it huh? Pathetic, you got owned hard and have no comeback.
                    Am not saying a fighter is limited to just one tittle shot. All am saying is Ortiz had got his shot and failed. There are other guys too like whyte ranked above him that is yet to get a shot.
                    They should get a chance to while Ortiz join the queue again for another shot.
                    My comments and opinions are straight forward. Am surprised you still don't understand them.

                    Why must it be Ortiz again? Is he the only title contender? Give this matter a break.

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                    • Alan Smithee
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                      #200
                      I just wish there was a heavyweight tournament where the top 16 or so fight each other. This division in particular avoids the toughest fights hoping for a title shot. I have tickets for Jennings/Rivas which should be interesting. Ortiz is not alone with a resume filled with stiffs. How many current top 20 heavy's have records filled with fighting mostly has beens or nobody's? Most of them!

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