Was Wilder vs. Ortiz on Thursday? You know, Ortiz, the other guy AJ didn't fight, that was in his stable. Was Wilder vs. Fury on a Thursday? You know, Fury, the British guy Joshua has never fought. What day was Joshua vs. Breazeale, since only Joshua (not Wilder, nor Fury, nor Ortiz) wasted their time on to fight? Lol!
Bro I have to give you credit your story of you being the king of the court is true. I see how much it means to you.
Who give a fvvk if he gives him a title shot. Dauhapas, Molina, Washington, spilka n co all got a title shot.
Aside fury, has any of wilder's opponents ever gotten 30% fighting wilder? Despite the small purse.
Takam got about $1m as a replacement for Pulev. Nobody ever gets that fighting wilder, not even Ortiz.
Ortiz was popped twice just like Podvetkin, there is a reason he fought Ortiz but didn't fight Podvetkin.
Go figure it out.
He fought Ortiz because Ortiz was the "boogeyman" of the HW division! Even Eddie Hearn said as much! Nobody was scared of Povetkin, nor Takam, nor Parker!
I was never the king of the court, but I followed the protocol, which is to call out the winner, not the loser! For instance, Wlad fights Fury, Fury wins! Over here, we challenge the winner! Over there, well you get the point! However, I get it! After Crawford vs. Burns, Davis vs. Walsh, and Spence vs. Brook, you guys want to make absolutely sure that AJ is well prepared, so you low-ball offer, hoping the fight doesn't happen, and follow the advice from Barry Hearn, and fight Wilder at a much later date! That's a very smart plan!
He fought Ortiz because Ortiz was the "boogeyman" of the HW division! Even Eddie Hearn said as much! Nobody was scared of Povetkin, nor Takam, nor Parker!
Is that what they told you?
Beating Jennings made him the boogeyman?
You have been brainwashed, it's obvious.
Ortiz was tagged boogeyman by wilder fans that were trying to big up the fight as at that time.
How many top 20 fighters did he beat to be the boogeyman?
I was never the king of the court, but I followed the protocol, which is to call out the winner, not the loser! For instance, Wlad fights Fury, Fury wins! Over here, we challenge the winner! Over there, well you get the point! However, I get it! After Crawford vs. Burns, Davis vs. Walsh, and Spence vs. Brook, you guys want to make absolutely sure that AJ is well prepared, so you low-ball offer, hoping the fight doesn't happen, and follow the advice from Barry Hearn, and fight Wilder at a much later date! That's a very smart plan!
It doesn't matter what the plan is, the important thing is to win in the ring.
That's all that matters. Every other thing is bullocks.
I was never the king of the court, but I followed the protocol, which is to call out the winner, not the loser! For instance, Wlad fights Fury, Fury wins! Over here, we challenge the winner! Over there, well you get the point! However, I get it! After Crawford vs. Burns, Davis vs. Walsh, and Spence vs. Brook, you guys want to make absolutely sure that AJ is well prepared, so you low-ball offer, hoping the fight doesn't happen, and follow the advice from Barry Hearn, and fight Wilder at a much later date! That's a very smart plan!
Lol did you want AJ to call out Fury when he was 400lbs??
With all due respect why are you harping on about a low flat fee offer that did not materialise? There is a much improved percentage offer with a guaranteed rematch for Wilder to chew on why on Earth are you babbling on about an offer in September? Yes I understand it was a treacherous offer even though he is yet to make that but I agree the offer was disrespectful but can you focus your mind to today and now?
Tyson wants to rest as you can clearly see yet you are happy to skirt around the idea of knuckling up for the undisputed. Since when have Americans not been greedy and not attempted to go for the glory?
This is not an British vs American rivalry I’m not patriotic like that. This is simply AJ will sleep Wilder if they fight and will sleep Fury. If he fails I will come on here and apologise for getting it wrong.
I don’t care about Hearn, Dazn or all the other promoters. If the fight gets made and it’s on ESPN then so be it. You guys are so wrapped up in Eddie and his so called lies that you lot will turn him into a legendary Promoter. Have you seen how many Americans interact with him and comment on his video.? He is a promoter for god sake stop giving him the attention . A Wilder video 10,000 on average. Eddie Hearn 100,000. It shouldn’t be like that. I think he is funny don’t get me wrong but I couldn’t care less about the man. Just like I wouldn’t waste my time talking every day about Al Haymon and Bob Arum. Let’s get some new material.
Tell me why bookmakers have AJ as overwhelming favourite to knock out Wilder? Tell me why you Americans don’t want Wilder to attempt to be undisputed? Talking about Ortiz who the F#uck is he? He is old and ponderous and can’t take a punch. He struggled with Kauffman and he gets knocked out by Joyce talk less of Joshua
I couldn’t give a **** arse what American beat English fighters I have no interest in. I was Cheering For Spence vs Brook
Is that what they told you?
Beating Jennings made him the boogeyman?
You have been brainwashed, it's obvious.
Ortiz was tagged boogeyman by wilder fans that were trying to big up the fight as at that time.
How many top 20 fighters did he beat to be the boogeyman?
Heavyweight Luis Ortiz signs with British promoter Matchroom Boxing
October 8, 2016:
Heavyweight Luis "King Kong" Ortiz, who holds an interim world title and is perhaps the most feared big man in boxing, signed a promotional agreement with British promoter Matchroom Boxing, the company announced Saturday...
"Luis Ortiz is one of the most exciting heavyweights in the world and I am delighted to be working with him," Hearn said. "We plan to keep him very busy and let the fans enjoy his devastating power. Luis is an avoided fighter but we plan on giving him the profile that will make that impossible."
Lol did you want AJ to call out Fury when he was 400lbs??
With all due respect why are you harping on about a low flat fee offer that did not materialise? There is a much improved percentage offer with a guaranteed rematch for Wilder to chew on why on Earth are you babbling on about an offer in September? Yes I understand it was a treacherous offer even though he is yet to make that but I agree the offer was disrespectful but can you focus your mind to today and now?
Tyson wants to rest as you can clearly see yet you are happy to skirt around the idea of knuckling up for the undisputed. Since when have Americans not been greedy and not attempted to go for the glory?
This is not an British vs American rivalry I’m not patriotic like that. This is simply AJ will sleep Wilder if they fight and will sleep Fury. If he fails I will come on here and apologise for getting it wrong.
I don’t care about Hearn, Dazn or all the other promoters. If the fight gets made and it’s on ESPN then so be it. You guys are so wrapped up in Eddie and his so called lies that you lot will turn him into a legendary Promoter. Have you seen how many Americans interact with him and comment on his video.? He is a promoter for god sake stop giving him the attention . A Wilder video 10,000 on average. Eddie Hearn 100,000. It shouldn’t be like that. I think he is funny don’t get me wrong but I couldn’t care less about the man. Just like I wouldn’t waste my time talking every day about Al Haymon and Bob Arum. Let’s get some new material.
Tell me why bookmakers have AJ as overwhelming favourite to knock out Wilder? Tell me why you Americans don’t want Wilder to attempt to be undisputed? Talking about Ortiz who the F#uck is he? He is old and ponderous and can’t take a punch. He struggled with Kauffman and he gets knocked out by Joyce talk less of Joshua
I couldn’t give a **** arse what American beat English fighters I have no interest in. I was Cheering For Spence vs Brook
See, yet again, there's something different in our make-up, I guess? When someone slaps you in the face in September, we don't forget about that by the following January, OVER HERE! Ortiz and Fury gave Wilder life, just like Wladimir Klitschko gave Joshua life! So Wilder and Fury owe it to each other to fight again. I think the rematch will be well before July, but we'll see! In the meantime, we'll see what Joshua does with his stablemates until the real warriors fight! Speaking of rematches:
December 14, 2018:
Joshua had his heart set on a blockbuster clash for all the marbles against Deontay Wilder in the spring next year but now finds himself in no man's land with the WBC champion keen to restart negotiations with Tyson Fury following their controversial split-decision draw in Los Angeles earlier this month.
Joshua's promoter Eddie Hearn is narrowing down the list of options as they look for a credible name to put in front of the unified champion at Wembley on April 13 and claimed that Klitschko is keen to throw his name into the hat.
Hearn told iFL TV: 'He wants to come back. I think he text AJ and said: "I wanna come back, I feel like I beat everybody in the division right now."'
Any attempts to lure Klitschko out of retirement over the past year had fallen on deaf ears but the Ukrainian now appears to be seriously considering it with a shot at redemption on the cards.
Heavyweight Luis Ortiz signs with British promoter Matchroom Boxing
October 8, 2016:
Heavyweight Luis "King Kong" Ortiz, who holds an interim world title and is perhaps the most feared big man in boxing, signed a promotional agreement with British promoter Matchroom Boxing, the company announced Saturday...
"Luis Ortiz is one of the most exciting heavyweights in the world and I am delighted to be working with him," Hearn said. "We plan to keep him very busy and let the fans enjoy his devastating power. Luis is an avoided fighter but we plan on giving him the profile that will make that impossible."
Oh dear, you've clearly fallen for some sensationalism and a promoters marketing here.
How good is Luis Ortiz?
March 7, 2016:
Ortiz is a very intelligent and skillful boxer, and he dances around the ring much like a typical Cuban can be expected to, but instead of using his feet to circle his opponent and dance out of danger, he uses them to corner his foes and violently dismantle them. Which leads me to what I view as his biggest strength, his agile footwork.
Some might argue that his power, or his nasty streak, is his biggest strength, and I certainly wouldn't scoff at the idea, but I feel that his mobility is his greatest asset. He moves with intelligence and with decent speed for a heavyweight. Whilst there are others in the division that may be able to match the speed of his feet, I am not sure that anyone can use their feet in such an educated manner. He cuts the ring off really nicely, as demonstrated when cornering, well, all of his opponents, and he is excellent at using his feet to step out of danger when his opponent fires back. It is his feet, most of all, that allow him to stay out of harm's way when his opponent dares to try and give it back.
Ortiz couples his footwork with a varied jab. This was most evident in his fight against Jennings. He switched up between a pawing, blinding jab that created space for his signature straight-left, to popping out a harder, faster jab that backed Jennings up on its own. This varied and well-placed jab made it very hard for Jennings to find any comfort and set any rhythm.
After the jab comes the power of Ortiz's punches -- he is a brutal puncher and he possesses a real mean streak. Some fighters seem to take real pleasure in dismantling an opponent, and Ortiz appears to be one of those guys. This is particularly evident by the no-nonsense approach he takes from the first bell in all of his fights. He wants to hurt his opponent, and he doesn't wait around to start doing it. Much of his power seems, to me, to come from the relaxed demeanour he carries when he is offloading. He never looks stiff and robotic when he puts power into his shots, and that results in quick, very heavy punches. Even so, whilst he has been dispatching his opponents with relative ease, I don't think he has the kind of one-punch knockout power that Deontay Wilder possesses. Instead, he seems to wear his opponent down with his unforgiving accuracy and quick counter-punching.
Ortiz's counter-punching is extremely well-timed and accurate. He does a great job of drawing his opponents' shots out to open them up for his counters. This is where his intelligence becomes most obvious. He baits his opponents into leading the dance, and quickly punishes them for doing so. This was evident in his four-round demolition of Monte Barrett. With his right-hand low and his jab constantly peppering Barrett, Barrett had to try and lunge in from distance, but Ortiz was always waiting for him with a much harder and much more accurate straight left.
Against opponents like Barrett, Ortiz's hand speed seems rapid. Even against Jennings, Ortiz seemed to have plenty of zip in his punches, but the heavyweight division can easily make a contender look rapid. I think it's fair to say Ortiz has decent, maybe even good hand speed, but it's also important to remember that this is all relative, and the real test will be in how his hands compare against some of the faster, more athletic fighters in the division.
Ortiz has strength in his mobility, power and boxing intelligence, and he has accentuated these through his counter-punching style. This was certainly on show when he finished the fight on Saturday against an admittedly overmatched Thompson. Ortiz likes beating guys up, and that's good, because he seems to be pretty good at it.
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