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  • #21
    Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
    Why not? You did with Rigo.
    My thoughts exactly

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    • #22
      Would be a very interesting fight, I Rank Russell jr highly as he was the first to officially drop Lomachenko in their fight but unfortunately the ref didn’t call it!

      I would pick Russell but he’s getting older and still inactive and in one of these fights it could catch up to him eventually!

      Santa Cruz’s volume punching and stamina vs Russell jr’s accuracy and speed!

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      • #23
        So what did Flores who? Do to warrant a shot at Santa Cruz over Rojas?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
          this article is about santa cruz, so I commented that Santa Cruz ducked rigo. And he's the one that gets biggest heat for ducking rigo because that was the main fight that needed to be made. When Canelo was being accused of ducking ggg, there were other people who ducked ggg as well, but the heat came on Canelo because that was the fans that should've been made and the fight that the fans wanted. There's no real dispute that Santa Cruz ducked him and you saying I should mention everyone who ducked rigo is pointless. Santa Cruz was champ and there was demand for that fight. And come to think of it, Russell Jr has been in the ring with Loma, Gonzalez (the guy who ko'd mares in 1)and an undefeated Diaz. That gives santa cruz a good run for his money as far as resume.
          Plenty of people were willing to fight GGG but he wasn't interested and this is well documented with evidence lmao. Canelo was in a whole different weight class, and people simply hated on Canelo because he's the cash cow. Cruz was busy fighting other top guys on PBC and Showtime while Rigo was linked to Roc Nation (who doesn't work with Haymon) and HBO.

          Stop.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by lolpz View Post
            Plenty of people were willing to fight GGG but he wasn't interested and this is well documented with evidence lmao. Canelo was in a whole different weight class, and people simply hated on Canelo because he's the cash cow. Cruz was busy fighting other top guys on PBC and Showtime while Rigo was linked to Roc Nation (who doesn't work with Haymon) and HBO.

            Stop.
            oh now you're going to defend Canelo. Lmaoo. A whole different weight class?? Newsflash, Canelo was fighting in the mw division or higher since 2014 with the exception of 1 fight. And now we all know that he was likely cutting weight illegally with clen to avoid going up the full 160. And it's fine if you think ggg should've fought ward but it doesn't change the fact that Canelo ducked him. And Canelo wasn't hated on because he's the money maker. He was hated on because instead of fighting ggg he fought no hopers like khan, Smith and Chavez jr. 3 in the biggest ppv mismatches you'll ever find. And he did that in 3 consecutive fights. That's pathetic. As far as Santa Cruz, who are these top guys he was facing? He faced mainly tomato cans and has never faced someone who was higher regarded on pound for pound lists than rigo was when he was ducking the fight. And yet again, you're ignoring that Oscar was ready to make the fight and santa cruz had Haymon buy him out of the contract so that he wouldn't have to fight rigo. There's no way around it, he ducked him.
            Last edited by Jab jab boom; 01-06-2019, 07:41 PM.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
              Still doesn't want any smoke with rigo. Still stands as one of the most blatant ducks I can think of.
              Yeah when he said no one will want to watch that fight because it's boring lol haha

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              • #27
                Fight the man he's already called you out!! And I wanna see what Gary Russell does against a top guy!!

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
                  Why not? You did with Rigo.
                  You been here since 2011. Therefore you know the way this business works. lSC didn’t so much duck Rigo as much as their individual promoters didn’t want to work together.
                  First it was when Rigo was with Arum and LSC was with Golden Boy during their famous Cold War. Later it was Haymon refusing to work with Roc Nation.

                  Plus because of Rigo style it was difficult to negotiate with networks, many of whom were apprehensive about Rigo being a main event.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34 View Post
                    Would be a very interesting fight, I Rank Russell jr highly as he was the first to officially drop Lomachenko in their fight but unfortunately the ref didn’t call it!
                    When? I watched this fight 5-7 times so please tell me on which minute of which round did Mr. "I-Will-Rematch-Loma" score a legit KD which referee didn't count?
                    Do your best.

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                    • #30
                      Well hurry up and bring your ass then. You've already ducked Rigondeaux.

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