Comments Thread For: Bernstein: Fury Did Not Get Long Count, Wilder Rematch is 50-50

[hugh grant]

Even if fury got up on 11 seconds it don't really matter. He was no danger to himself he was fit to fight.

[cameltoe]

2 vicious knockdowns? I only saw one vicious knockdown. The first KD barely registered and TBH debatable if it should have even been counted, seeing as Wilder hit him on the back of the head to put him down.

[cameltoe]

If the rematch happens it’ll be the same as before

If Fury can outbox Wilder without getting touched he wins if Wilder hits Fury with the hammer Wilder will win

I’m a fan of Fury but his reluctance to talk about a immediate rematch makes me think he knows he escaped that fight by the skin of his teeth with the KD in the 12th and wouldn’t be suprised if he’s still waking up in the middle of the night in cold sweats having nightmares about that KD

Fury’s profile has done a 180 as most feel he won the fight but if a rematch happens and Wilder catches him ( which there is a very good chance and he probably wouldn’t be getting up this time ) he’ll lose whatever momentum he’s built from the first fight

You’re tripping. It was Wilder who immediately after the fight was all nonchalant about whether a rematch would happen.

It was Wilder who escaped by the skin of his teeth by pulling a KD out of the bag when he was losing every round, and even then still needed a dodgy decision to get the draw.

If anything, it’s Wilder that would be having cold sweats, hoping somehow he can luck out twice in a row with his power and the judges. It took him 11.5 rounds to manage it the first time, I think it’s more likely he doesn’t land in the rematch, as opposed to Fury not getting up.

[champion4ever]

You're in denial. Its ok. I'm hoping for an immediate recovery while you're getting over this. Its common. Next is acceptance.

No, I think you are the one in denial. You can't move about the ring and run out the clock to avoid getting hit for twelve rounds straight without getting tired and getting nailed by one of Wilder's right hands. All of Wilder's previous 41 opponents have tried that strategy and all 41 of them had ended up on their asses.

[angkag]

In reality it's 60-40 in furys favour.

Thats what the bookies think.

[Reverb]

No, I think you are the one in denial. You can't move about the ring and run out the clock to avoid getting hit for twelve rounds straight without getting tired and getting nailed by one of Wilder's right hands. All of Wilder's previous 41 opponents have tried that strategy and all 41 of them had ended up on their asses.

The one throwing Hail Marys all night can't improve. The boxer can adjust. Add that he couldn't finish him after that knockdown..in fact he was going backwards after it. If he couldn't finish him the first time, he's on slimmer pickings next time out. Time to move to acceptance

[The plunger man]

The two rounds he knocked Fury down in I had 10-8 for Wilder. I scored them that way because they were in line with how judges have scored in other fights that had similar knock downs. I had him winning round 2 and if I recall correctly round 6. A lot of rounds were close.

I did score 10-8 rounds to wilder 2 times..people forget that it is only 2 points gained by wilder....I didn’t see wilder winning no more than 3 rounds and if you want to be generous maybe a drawn round...that’s it.
Wilder got out jabbed and made to look second best for almost all the fight..fury counteracted the knockdowns with winning more rounds

[ultravividscene]

I had Wilder winning or at worst a draw but it wasn't a long count.

No you didn't

You had Fury winning 114-112 based on how you say you scored it in your next post, below:

"The two rounds he knocked Fury down in I had 10-8 for Wilder. I scored them that way because they were in line with how judges have scored in other fights that had similar knock downs. I had him winning round 2 and if I recall correctly round 6. A lot of rounds were close."

You say Fury lost 4 rounds, or 4 points, plus 2 kds, another 2 points thus dropping 6 points total... 120-6=114

Wilder lost the other 8 rounds, dropping 8 points total... 120-8=112

[TonyGe]

No you didn't

You had Fury winning 114-112 based on how you say you scored it in your next post, below:



You say Fury lost 4 rounds, or 4 points, plus 2 kds, another 2 points thus dropping 6 points total... 120-6=114

Wilder lost the other 8 rounds, dropping 8 points total... 120-8=112

I'm going to go back and review it again. I believe I scored one more round for him at the time. I should have wrote it down.

[cameltoe]

No, I think you are the one in denial. You can't move about the ring and run out the clock to avoid getting hit for twelve rounds straight without getting tired and getting nailed by one of Wilder's right hands. All of Wilder's previous 41 opponents have tried that strategy and all 41 of them had ended up on their asses.

But you can for 11.5 rounds?

FWIW I didn’t see an awful lot of running around the ring to run the clock down. I saw Wilder get comprehensively outboxed.