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  • Bad Bart
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    #51
    Originally posted by Jax teller
    If they trade punches this going to suit AJ he is the big blistering fast combo puncher and how he finishes a lot of his fights, Wilder can't even string together more than a one two on the pads.

    Wilders fast but this is negated with the scenic route his right hand takes to the target. Even if AJ wasn't as fast he will hit Wilder first as he is still reasoably fast and way more direct, even Lennox said AJ beats Wilder on this principle alone that AJ has the straighter right.

    I've never seen Wilder use angle but also AJ can set a KO up more intelligenlty than Wilder look at the set up with Povetkin. Hit him to the body to make him drop his hands and then **** took his head off. Wilder just grabs your front arm and tries to hit you over the top.
    Good analysis! And I'm being serious. Wish you guys would stick to that.

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    • kafkod
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      #52
      Originally posted by frosty-g
      Not questioning you, rather questioning what was said in the quote - pound for pound the most dangerous heavyweight out there????? What the hell does that mean????
      Lol .. this is Barry Hearn talking, not Eddie. The old man is in his 70's and more into darts and snooker than boxing.

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      • 15 Rounds again
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        #53
        Originally posted by apollocreed
        He actually said 'Dillian Whye is pound for pound the most dangerous heavyweight out there'.
        Hearn is such a **** spewing salesman ****.
        He was saying that Whyte is the most dangerous to Joshua. Which is a fact. Wilder doesn't bring any fear, and Fury, while awkward, poses no threat to AJ. Whyte does. Whyte is levels ahead of Wilder. These are facts.

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        • Jax teller
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          #54
          Originally posted by thack
          If AJ's as slow as he and his cronies are at making the fight it's a mismatch.In a shoot out there's only one winner and it's not AJ...... I wish it was.
          Where are you getting AJ as being slow? You should seriously watch his fights if you believe this.

          One of his main assets is that he was fast especially for a guy of his weight and muscle mass. Slow is someone like Dubois or Ortiz.

          Only way Wilder wins is if he can keep that range and swing in the right. AJ has the power advantage close up because Wilders power comes from the momentum he builds from the loop and a fight on the inside is AJ's bread and butter and where he is most effective and impressive, distance is where you're gonna get AJ if you're gonna beat him to the KO.

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            #55
            Originally posted by 15 Rounds again
            In terms of both chances of winning, and commercial equity, explain why it is 50/50
            Both guys can crack, neither one has a legendary chin, and neither guy is what you would consider a technician. Both are just big and powerful. That's a 50/50 in my book. Regarding commercial equity...I don't do the money talk, sorry. That whole a-side/b-side shhh is for financiers, managers, and ego. Make the fight is all I give a flying leap about, get what you get that's the fighters business. We don't know what an AJ ppv at the price of 59.99 will do and we don't know what kind of draw Deontay could have in the UK against a british opponent. So the money talk is pointless without those factors. Selling out an arena is cool and all but that doesn't tell the full story if you aren't breaking a single gate record or coming close to doing so.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Raggamuffin
              All talk. They’ve been talking while Wilder fights Ortiz and Fury back to back.

              They have also fought higer ranked opposition infront of many thousands more people selling more PPV's and making Joshua more money than Wilder.

              Also im still struggling to understand why we should all be so god damn impressed that Wilder faced Luis Ortiz. Atleast with Wlad we can say he achieved something, and Parker, Povetkin, even Charles ****ing Martin has achieved more than Ortiz in the division.

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                #57
                Hearn is trying to embarrass Wilder into fighting by calling him the easiest fight of all. Why does Hearn want to fight Miller in the States and not Wilder his having different rules for different fighters. Hearn let's be honest if you serious about Wilder offer them a 50/50 split or make the White fight it's as simple as that.

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                • Jax teller
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Bad Bart
                  Hahahaha! You Matchroom mongs are truly incredible!
                  You've got no substance, I don't care for matchroom as a company, you're the only one that seems to have a thing for promotional companies must have hurt you deeply that they got company of the year on boxing scene.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by turnedup
                    Both guys can crack, neither one has a legendary chin, and neither guy is what you would consider a technician. Both are just big and powerful. That's a 50/50 in my book. Regarding commercial equity...I don't do the money talk, sorry. That whole a-side/b-side shhh is for financiers, managers, and ego. Make the fight is all I give a flying leap about, get what you get that's the fighters business. We don't know what an AJ ppv at the price of 59.99 will do and we don't know what kind of draw Deontay could have in the UK against a british opponent. So the money talk is pointless without those factors. Selling out an arena is cool and all but that doesn't tell the full story if you aren't breaking a single gate record or coming close to doing so.
                    What a crock.
                    First off, AJ has had his chin tested by Whyte, Wlad, Povetkin and others who can all ****. He has a good beard. Don't tell me "well, he went over against WK!!" All heavies are in trouble against a big poppin hw, no matter your chin. Ali went down to Cooper, they've all hit the canvas at some point if they've fought good opposition.
                    AJ is an Olympic gold medalist. You're a fool if you think he pulled that medal out of a cereal box. He's a savvy operator. Throws a variety of punches, (you don't land an uppercut like that on a veteran like Klitschko, in the middle of the ring, without being technically proficient). He can fight long or short, has better power than Wilder (I know, you disagree) and so on.
                    You also say you don't care about commercial viability. If this is true, why don't you tell that ******* to fight AJ, instead of defending him for his ridiculous demands? The guy brings zero ADDED value to a fight with AJ, as AJ sells out anyway, but still fights the best.
                    C'mon man, stop messin with me, you re not this ******.

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                    • Batfink
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                      #60
                      Delusional

                      Remarkable ... it astounds me how the world turns in the boxing fraternity. I can’t help but support promotion of a fight and certainly whyte vs joshua is a fight worth watching particularly when in my opinion if Dillian had better conditioning in their first encounter he would have put the manners on Joshua.

                      However all this talk seems to digress from the subject at hand the very big elephants in the room of wilder and fury.

                      Matchroom certainly seem to be working the media to spin into their favour some credibility that they have clearly lost since Wilder vs Fury. Although their campaigning for a matchup would almost definitely fair better if they simply offered up 50/50.

                      I understand that is contentious point considering how people value AJs falling stock but it’s a way to guarantee that fight. If I were wilder that’s what I would ask for and in the interim take apart any opposition worthy of contention such as Dillian Whyte if the rematch with fury is Dec 19 in Vegas.

                      Going back to positioning the fights in terms of difficult I think matchroom are clearly setting up the fight with whyte by calling him the most dangerous that is clearly significant but little more than ostentatious label placed on some cheap chilli sauce.

                      Whyte would be the easiest fight. Joshua has been there done that and well would fancy his chances and probably would go up a gear and break him within 6.

                      Wilder/fury are career fights that are make or break. Although Wilder may be a tad limited in his boxing ability he makes up for some of that discrepancy with his knockout power not something that anyone will take lightly and to boot he can take a decent punch.

                      Fury would frustrate the hell out of Joshua and not sure how he would train for a guy like fury I guess that’s just a roll the dice and see what happens and would probably make Joshua the most nervous.

                      Matchroom need to build a new fight for Joshua in 2019 and they will be on a full power pr drive in the next few weeks around who ever his next apponent will be.

                      I guess for us fight fans we can only watch and wonder at the spectacle outside the ring before we get inside the ring action. Perhaps the focus will shift to the other weight classes as the heavyweight division goes into hibernation mode while we wait for the big fights to materialise.

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