Comments Thread For: Hearn: Ranking in Terms of Danger - Wilder is Easiest For Joshua

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I'm fine with this homie. I agree with everything you said about Deontay. You know I think he sucks. I don't really like either guy so I'm going with the American.

So be it. We can make a hefty bet if and when they ever fight. E-points only though, because anything can happen in boxing, and I'm not about ******** my real paper, lol.

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Heddie ***** should stick to selling cars, FRAUD!!!!

Talking of frauds, I see they made a short documentary (lol) about Wilder called 'one name one face'.

That's an unfortunate title for this guy who doesn't want to unify.

If you made this stuff up people wouldn't believe you lol.

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Sportsbooks do not care about who is going to win in any match up, they care about EVEN action, and yes everything is market driven. Sportsbooks follow betting trends and anticipate action, the opening line is very important... please put aside your AJ bias, Sportsbooks do not make predictions they offer a price which they believe will garner EVEN action... thats it. If the opening line for this presumed fight was a pick em every brit and his aunt would be jumping over themselves to get a bet in... well guess what, the sportsbooks KNOW this! That is why they will make AJ backers pay a premium for their wager.

You are ******.
By that logic, in Alabama, a bookie would make Wilder favourite, and you could bet on Joshua there as an underdog, and Wilder in UK as an underdog, and win either way.
But that's not the way it works you imbecile. Bookies dont give a fu ck about local bias. They make the line the way their expert sees it, and tweak it from there according to the action.
I can get odds now on Whyte and Joshua. And Breazeale and Wilder. Those lines have to start somewhere before anyone lays a dime out, d'uh.

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You are ******.
By that logic, in Alabama, a bookie would make Wilder favourite, and you could bet on Joshua there as an underdog, and Wilder in UK as an underdog, and win either way.
But that's not the way it works you imbecile. Bookies dont give a fu ck about local bias. They make the line the way their expert sees it, and tweak it from there according to the action.
I can get odds now on Whyte and Joshua. And Breazeale and Wilder. Those lines have to start somewhere before anyone lays a dime out, d'uh.

you have no clue man... ...i think brits are cool, but so many of you guys sound like devoted women who are ready to drop to their knees and blow AJ all nite, and you are no different... Lines are set on perceived action. Lines are not predictions. Just F'k off now . is it possible you are not an expert on everything??? is that possible or you know everything and everyone else is ******, or an imbecile. You are just a fish who has no idea. Lines are prices, there are 100s of sportsbooks out there,why do you think that is? Not actually looking from an answer from you, your love for another man makes your opinions too bias

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Well.....on paper he didn't lose, but that was a Fury win as long as I have a hole in my arse.

it sounds like you are keeping it wide open for your favorite boxers to drill it all nite you flamer

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you have no clue man... ...i think brits are cool, but so many of you guys sound like devoted women who are ready to drop to their knees and blow AJ all nite, and you are no different... Lines are set on perceived action. Lines are not predictions. Just F'k off now . is it possible you are not an expert on everything??? is that possible or you know everything and everyone else is ******, or an imbecile. You are just a fish who has no idea. Lines are prices, there are 100s of sportsbooks out there,why do you think that is? Not actually looking from an answer from you, your love for another man makes your opinions too bias

It's your love for Wilder that makes you utterly blind to his ducking.
Answer me this, if nobody had wagered a dime on, say, Khan Vs Crawford yet, where does the original line come from?

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It's your love for Wilder that makes you utterly blind to his ducking.
Answer me this, if nobody had wagered a dime on, say, Khan Vs Crawford yet, where does the original line come from?

the expertise of the bookmakers is to determine a "perceived" favorite...sometimes they get it all wrong, see Alabama-6 vs Clemson the other night. Was Vlad really worth -800 when he fought Fury in Germany? The books do not look to 'gamble' the gtd. profit is in the spread...ask any bookmaker and they will tell you even action on both sides is heaven, it's the name of the game. I haven' t seen an opening line on Crawford/Khan but I am sure it will be similar to the one with Canelo i think that was -600? btw, no love for Wilder over any others, just like to watch fights, all of them, any network, any promoter, US,UK,MX, Canada, PR, whatever the background black, white, yellow, doesn't matter...ducking/schmucking it's a business, there is no set schedules like in other sports, 4 titles to choose from, nobody is truly obligated to do anything, as you can see fighters fight for vacant titles all the time...that's boxing. The DW/AJ thing can go on and on like floyd/pac before anything gets signed , both sides seem content with what they are earning without each other, I'll watch Wilder-Fury2, and I'll watch AJ/Whyte2 in the meantime anf enjoy the fights.

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the expertise of the bookmakers is to determine a "perceived" favorite...sometimes they get it all wrong, see Alabama-6 vs Clemson the other night. Was Vlad really worth -800 when he fought Fury in Germany? The books do not look to 'gamble' the gtd. profit is in the spread...ask any bookmaker and they will tell you even action on both sides is heaven, it's the name of the game. I haven' t seen an opening line on Crawford/Khan but I am sure it will be similar to the one with Canelo i think that was -600? btw, no love for Wilder over any others, just like to watch fights, all of them, any network, any promoter, US,UK,MX, Canada, PR, whatever the background black, white, yellow, doesn't matter...ducking/schmucking it's a business, there is no set schedules like in other sports, 4 titles to choose from, nobody is truly obligated to do anything, as you can see fighters fight for vacant titles all the time...that's boxing. The DW/AJ thing can go on and on like floyd/pac before anything gets signed , both sides seem content with what they are earning without each other, I'll watch Wilder-Fury2, and I'll watch AJ/Whyte2 in the meantime anf enjoy the fights.

Thanks for that, but you have not told me anything I didn't know.
Of course all opening lines are 'perceived favourites' because we dknt have a crystal ball, the event has not happened yet. Of course you can point to underdogs AFTER the fact like Clemson and Fury, but that's AFTER the fact. The original lines laid are by the experts as to who they PERCEIVE to be the favourite, which brings us full circle back to my original point. According to the experts this is not a 50/50, or an even fight as you put it.Joshua is favourite, for a reason. Respectfully, citing cases after the fact where the favourite did not win is a bit silly. That does not negate the point that Wikder is an underdog here

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the expertise of the bookmakers is to determine a "perceived" favorite...sometimes they get it all wrong, see Alabama-6 vs Clemson the other night. Was Vlad really worth -800 when he fought Fury in Germany? The books do not look to 'gamble' the gtd. profit is in the spread...ask any bookmaker and they will tell you even action on both sides is heaven, it's the name of the game. I haven' t seen an opening line on Crawford/Khan but I am sure it will be similar to the one with Canelo i think that was -600? btw, no love for Wilder over any others, just like to watch fights, all of them, any network, any promoter, US,UK,MX, Canada, PR, whatever the background black, white, yellow, doesn't matter...ducking/schmucking it's a business, there is no set schedules like in other sports, 4 titles to choose from, nobody is truly obligated to do anything, as you can see fighters fight for vacant titles all the time...that's boxing. The DW/AJ thing can go on and on like floyd/pac before anything gets signed , both sides seem content with what they are earning without each other, I'll watch Wilder-Fury2, and I'll watch AJ/Whyte2 in the meantime anf enjoy the fights.

Thanks for that, but you have not told me anything I didn't know.
Of course all opening lines are 'perceived favourites' because we dknt have a crystal ball, the event has not happened yet. Of course you can point to underdogs AFTER the fact like Clemson and Fury, but that's AFTER the fact. The original lines laid are by the experts as to who they PERCEIVE to be the favourite, which brings us full circle back to my original point. According to the experts this is not a 50/50, or an even fight as you put it.Joshua is favourite, for a reason. Respectfully, citing cases after the fact where the favourite did not win is a bit silly. That does not negate the point that Wilder is an underdog here, which was the original point.