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  • DaaamnSon
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    #131
    Originally posted by REDEEMER
    You wont see a third fight because the WBC will sanction a Unification fight between Joshua and Fury. Wilder won't fight AJ, we all have figured that out by now so Wilder won't see his belt again.
    That's exactly what should happen but remember ,as James Toney said, the WBC stands for We Be Crooks. I won't be surprised if Haymon had his way with them and makes sure they order Fury-Wilder 3 or a Breazeale mandatory.

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      #132
      Originally posted by DaaamnSon
      That's exactly what should happen but remember ,as James Toney said, the WBC stands for We Be Crooks. I won't be surprised if Haymon had his way with them and makes sure they order Fury-Wilder 3 or a Breazeale mandatory.
      Breazeale didn't look that good when Wilder went to scout him out so I'm guessing that's his next fight.

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        #133
        Originally posted by REDEEMER
        Breazeale didn't look that good when Wilder went to scout him out so I'm guessing that's his next fight.
        While a good a fight that I would've like to have seen before the Fury fight it would be a shameless move from Wilder if that were to be his next fight. Wouldn't put it past him though.

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          #134
          Originally posted by sportbuddha
          Well that’s what I was thinking, he loses the second bout to Fury. Has a rebuild fight with Brezeale (because he’s been long promised the pay day) and although he wins he’s done nothing to increase his standing. I guess overall my point is that fighting Fury in the rematch is not the best plan, I believe Fury has more ability to improve between the bouts and Wilder risks giving up the belt and in so doing can get frozen out by Hearn for a couple of years. I want to see Wilder vs AJ, IMO Fury is not THE contest we all want to see.
          As per your post above, you presume that Team AJ is seeking to make the fight under reasonable terms and that Team Wilder is being greedy. I'd like to get to a point where that can be objectively concluded. So far we have heard Hearn say Wilder deserves 35%. Was that officially offered?

          As far as the rematch, I do not feel any improvement Fury makes increases his chances of winning. Why? Because his gameplan is to not get caught. He could theoretically land more punches in the next fight and still lose by KO.

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            #135
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            Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
            As per your post above, you presume that Team AJ is seeking to make the fight under reasonable terms and that Team Wilder is being greedy. I'd like to get to a point where that can be objectively concluded. So far we have heard Hearn say Wilder deserves 35%. Was that officially offered?

            As far as the rematch, I do not feel any improvement Fury makes increases his chances of winning. Why? Because his gameplan is to not get caught. He could theoretically land more punches in the next fight and still lose by KO.
            More crazy talk , any improvements don't increase one's chances? The Wilder fans never fail to get weirder.

            If Fury lands more it's most likely jabs which offsets any offense Wilder does and also sets up potentially power shots that will stop Wilder next time of its a higher punch count from Fury. It's the reasons I know Wilder will never win this fight unless they fought five times.

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              #136
              Originally posted by REDEEMER
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              More crazy talk , any improvements don't increase one's chances? The Wilder fans never fail to get weirder.

              If Fury lands more it's most likely jabs which offsets any offense Wilder does and also sets up potentially power shots that will stop Wilder next time of its a higher punch count from Fury. It's the reasons I know Wilder will never win this fight unless they fought five times.
              It still doesn't increase his chances of winning. He does not have the power to stop Wilder. As such he is simply winning rounds and not dissuading Wilder from throwing KO shots. Remember...Fury has to protect his chin and mount offense.

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                #137
                Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                It still doesn't increase his chances of winning. He does not have the power to stop Wilder. As such he is simply winning rounds and not dissuading Wilder from throwing KO shots. Remember...Fury has to protect his chin and mount offense.
                He rocked Wilder in the 3rd and last round , stunned him . We know Fury has the power because Szpilka and Molina hurt Wilder but didn't follow up. No one who knows boxing will tell you more punches thrown doesn't increase a fighters chances because Wilder himself got two knock downs where the much better skilled Klitschko didn't .

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by REDEEMER
                  He rocked Wilder in the 3rd and last round , stunned him . We know Fury has the power because Szpilka and Molina hurt Wilder but didn't follow up. No one who knows boxing will tell you more punches thrown doesn't increase a fighters chances because Wilder himself got two knock downs where the much better skilled Klitschko didn't .
                  Depends on the fight. More punches versus Wilder increases the chance of being countered and KO'd. Fury would likely pay dearly for staying in the pocket with a power puncher. He just doesn't have the requisite power to keep Wilder away for 12 rounds. As you saw in the 12th, Wilder just needs to land one.

                  Molina caught Wilder with a good shot that appeared to stun Wilder and wake him up. Spzilka and Fury landed no such punches.

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                    As far as the rematch, I do not feel any improvement Fury makes increases his chances of winning. Why? Because his gameplan is to not get caught. He could theoretically land more punches in the next fight and still lose by KO.
                    Well that’s pretty much the blue print for any Wilder fight, it’s the only reason to watch his fights

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                      Hearn and Joshua both confirmed the offer was legitimate. Why are you still claiming it wasn't?

                      The BT sport 50m offer??? Hahaha...grow up!

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