Comments Thread For: Wilder Laughs: O2 Arena Was Booing The **** Out of Joshua!

[PunchyPotorff]

Wilder blabbering away.... yet again.... meanwhile Joshua sells out stadiums in England, and Wilder can't even sell out the auditorium in Alabama an hour away from his hometown. Wilder must think he's a ********** politician... with all the b.s. he keeps spewing.

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What was paid attendance a couple days ago for Whyte/Chisora? And what was paid attendance last month for Fury/Wilder?

I don't know. What I do know is that dollars (or pounds) go into your bank account, not people. So fewer people paying more money is better than more people paying less money.

A decent seat to Wilder vs Fury would have set ya back a thousand dollars, a thousand and a half to sit ringside. The UK can't handle those kinds of prices.

A UK PPV is $25, a US PPV is $75. Again, the UK can't generate what the US can.

It's not something to brag about. It's crazy what people pay in the US. But the reality is that this is where you need to come to maximize revenue.

[Robbie Barrett]

I don't know. What I do know is that dollars (or pounds) go into your bank account, not people. So fewer people paying more money is better than more people paying less money.

A decent seat to Wilder vs Fury would have set ya back a thousand dollars, a thousand and a half to sit ringside. The UK can't handle those kinds of prices.

A UK PPV is $25, a US PPV is $75. Again, the UK can't generate what the US can.

It's not something to brag about. It's crazy what people pay in the US. But the reality is that this is where you need to come to maximize revenue.

US is the place to go? Wrong.

UK is the home of HW boxing. HW fighters fight UK fighter in the UK to maximise their purses.

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None of the biggest fights in history have sold out?!?!??! AJ vs Klitschko was 90k and they had to get permission to put the last 10-20k extra seats in the stadium hahaha.

There have been 20 fights in Vegas that did a larger gate than AJ vs Klitschko. That may have been one of the biggest heavyweight fights in recent history, it's not one of the biggest fights in history. Not even close. The UK can't generate enough revenue to compete with the big US fights.

[Kezzer]

I don't know. What I do know is that dollars (or pounds) go into your bank account, not people. So fewer people paying more money is better than more people paying less money.

A decent seat to Wilder vs Fury would have set ya back a thousand dollars, a thousand and a half to sit ringside. The UK can't handle those kinds of prices.

A UK PPV is $25, a US PPV is $75. Again, the UK can't generate what the US can.

It's not something to brag about. It's crazy what people pay in the US. But the reality is that this is where you need to come to maximize revenue.

But again it comes down to numbers. Joshua clearly sells enough numbers to outweigh the higher usa cost for Ppv.

Added to that this doesn’t take into account the non household cost for Ppv which is substantially more in comparison to USA; and all the additional sponsorship/commercial deals and gate money Joshua generates.

Remember when comparing Ppv numbers that wilders 300k was based on arguably one of the biggest fights he could have, meanwhile Joshua would treble that against pretty much anyone I.e at least make the same amount of money.

A joshua Fury fight would most likely be well over 1.5 million buys or for that matter joshua vs wilder.

Heck, there is an argument to say Whyte is going to become worth more $ than wilder given his success against Parker and chisora. Fighting chisora is probably the equivalent to facing a molina for wilder - I’m not so sure you could expect 200k+ Ppv sales for wilder in a average fight like that?

[Robbie Barrett]

There have been 20 fights in Vegas that did a larger gate than AJ vs Klitschko. That may have been one of the biggest heavyweight fights in recent history, it's not one of the biggest fights in history. Not even close. The UK can't generate enough revenue to compete with the big US fights.

Why do Wilder fans keep mentioning far more popular fighters than Wilder as examples?

What's Wilders highest gate revenue? Highest fight revenue? These are the numbers what matter not what a Mayweather or De La Hoya made that's irrelevant.

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US is the place to go? Wrong.

UK is the home of HW boxing. HW fighters fight UK fighter in the UK to maximise their purses.

True or false: Joshua vs Wilder would generate more if held in the US than if held in the UK?

Before you answer, keep in mind your heroes Eddie Hearn and Anthony Joshua have both said the fight would generate more money in the US.

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But again it comes down to numbers. Joshua clearly sells enough numbers to outweigh the higher usa cost for Ppv.

True or false: Joshua vs Wilder would generate more if it took place in the US instead of the UK?

[Froch_uppercut]

Yeah, you're right. I genuinely believe that Wilder is so pissed off and hurt that he didn't get his own way with Joshua that he will do anything to screw him over. He's cutting his nose off to spite his face.

Wilder's problem is, Fury WILL beat him in the rematch and then Wilder suddenly is out of the biggest HW fight of his era! Then its Fury v Joshua for the undisputed HW crown.

This comment and the one you replied to are the most succinct and true summaries of this situation that I have seen. Wilder didn't really offer 50M, it didn't have a venue and date, and he was basically trying to negotiate Joshua with AJ's own money. Then him and Winkel have launched a propaganda campaign saying AJ is ducking, when every sane person can see AJ wants it but on reasonable terms, and Wikder doesn't want it at all.
Fury beats Wilder (probably) and then Joshua beats the Fury and Wilder is done.

[Robbie Barrett]

True or false: Joshua vs Wilder would generate more if held in the US than if held in the UK?

Before you answer, keep in mind your heroes Eddie Hearn and Anthony Joshua have both said the fight would generate more money in the US.

That's because the UK would still buy the PPV if it's in the US. If it's just revenue from each country a fight in the UK would make more than the fight in the US.