Comments Thread For: Hearn: Very Disappointing if Joshua-Wilder Pushed Back To 2020

[Noelanthony]

no way because joshy turned down his biggest guaranteed payday of his career. $50million plus upside and a concrete automatic rematch.

You again....

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[Dasmius Shinobi]

You again....

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no way because joshy turned down his biggest guaranteed payday of his career. $50million plus upside and a concrete automatic rematch.

Please stop with that nonsense of the phantasm $50 million

[Scopedog]

Hearn had the chance to make the fight this year when it was the one HW fight people were desperate to see, but that fell through, and by and large that was entirely his fault. The kind of things he was doing and saying weren't the actions of someone trying to reach a deal. Now it's not the only show on the block - Wilder doesn't need Joshua to make money and enhance his prestige, he has the Fury rematch for that - which is a fight he'll probably be able to arrange mostly on his own terms. As such, the demand for Wilder to fight Joshua is arguably not as strong as the demand for Wilder and Fury to settle their unfinished business.

Personally I wouldn't mind for Wilder to fight Joshua right now, but I'd prefer that the rematch establishes a legit winner who then goes on to fight Joshua. It's certainly not a desire as strong as it was about 6, 7 months ago when I was following the negotiations closely and got angry when they fell through. Hearn wants to make the fight now because he knows that the Wilder-Fury 2 winner will be in an even stronger bargaining position than they are now and he won't be able to demand an exorbitant split of the purse. He tried to play the game and it forced him into an unfavourable position, where Joshua's probably going to be left facing another uninspiring opponent in April while either Wilder or Fury's stock only grows stronger.

[Ray*]

I don't see Wilder leaving america with that belt. I don't think he doesnt want the fight. He just doesn't want it outside of america. If that Fury fight was anywhere outside of the americas Wilder wouldn't have that belt by now.

[Toffee]

Hearn had the chance to make the fight this year when it was the one HW fight people were desperate to see, but that fell through, and by and large that was entirely his fault. The kind of things he was doing and saying weren't the actions of someone trying to reach a deal. Now it's not the only show on the block - Wilder doesn't need Joshua to make money and enhance his prestige, he has the Fury rematch for that - which is a fight he'll probably be able to arrange mostly on his own terms. As such, the demand for Wilder to fight Joshua is arguably not as strong as the demand for Wilder and Fury to settle their unfinished business.

Personally I wouldn't mind for Wilder to fight Joshua right now, but I'd prefer that the rematch establishes a legit winner who then goes on to fight Joshua. It's certainly not a desire as strong as it was about 6, 7 months ago when I was following the negotiations closely and got angry when they fell through. Hearn wants to make the fight now because he knows that the Wilder-Fury 2 winner will be in an even stronger bargaining position than they are now and he won't be able to demand an exorbitant split of the purse. He tried to play the game and it forced him into an unfavourable position, where Joshua's probably going to be left facing another uninspiring opponent in April while either Wilder or Fury's stock only grows stronger.

I think there's two sides to the story, but the big thing I agree with is your last sentence.

One of them will come out better. If Fury loses then people will question whether he's really back. I think he could survive it though given his boxing ability and age.

If Wilder gets shown up again then he'll just be the guy who relies on a haymaker connecting and gets outclassed at the top level. But for the fact that he'll likely have a rematch clause it would be game over for him.

The way I see it, Wilder has two more fights in him at the very top level (fight plus rematch) as I think the odds are that he loses both.

But he could connect with a big punch. If I were him I'd take on that gamble for all the belts. Not just one.

[Laligalaliga]

I remember one article in this site before the first fight of Wilder vs Fury when Eddie Hearns said he was going to give Wilder 50/50 If they pull off 1 million PPV. What I don't remember what number of PPV Eddie Hearns said to make a 60/40 in favor of Joshua. Anyway, we have to wait the results of the rematch, the revenue and that is depending the location they are going to choose for the rematch. I still feel that a 60/40 is fair in favor of Joshua.

I said that the A side Joshua is going to still want the first fight in UK don't matter what in the post.

Eddie knew even with fury being the dance partner, its impossible to hit such figure as high as 1mil ppv, so 50/50 is no option cos it's not going to happen.

The ppv did about 325k which isn't bad for the high ppv rate. The rematch might do better.

Hoping they can disagree to agree so we can settle this argument once and for Al. The HW division is getting more exciting again.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

[Laligalaliga]

That is something that I agree with you.

am happy we can agree on something.
The truth is I just want to see the fight irrespective of who wins.
I like wilder too.
I like fury as well.
I like all the warriors that put their health in line to entertain us.
Win or loose, I respect them.

[Laligalaliga]

Hearn had the chance to make the fight this year when it was the one HW fight people were desperate to see, but that fell through, and by and large that was entirely his fault. The kind of things he was doing and saying weren't the actions of someone trying to reach a deal. Now it's not the only show on the block - Wilder doesn't need Joshua to make money and enhance his prestige, he has the Fury rematch for that - which is a fight he'll probably be able to arrange mostly on his own terms. As such, the demand for Wilder to fight Joshua is arguably not as strong as the demand for Wilder and Fury to settle their unfinished business.

Personally I wouldn't mind for Wilder to fight Joshua right now, but I'd prefer that the rematch establishes a legit winner who then goes on to fight Joshua. It's certainly not a desire as strong as it was about 6, 7 months ago when I was following the negotiations closely and got angry when they fell through. Hearn wants to make the fight now because he knows that the Wilder-Fury 2 winner will be in an even stronger bargaining position than they are now and he won't be able to demand an exorbitant split of the purse. He tried to play the game and it forced him into an unfavourable position, where Joshua's probably going to be left facing another uninspiring opponent in April while either Wilder or Fury's stock only grows stronger.

What suddenly happen to I want to be the only face in the division, the undisputed, one face, Fight anywhere, it's not about the money and all that bullocks?

A rehab patient appeared and suddenly all that don't matter any more.

Don't be a one side analyst cos you want to protect your agenda. You will look ****** doing that.

[Laligalaliga]

I don't see Wilder leaving america with that belt. I don't think he doesnt want the fight. He just doesn't want it outside of america. If that Fury fight was anywhere outside of the americas Wilder wouldn't have that belt by now.

95% of everyone living soul already knew this to be honest.

[Laligalaliga]

I think there's two sides to the story, but the big thing I agree with is your last sentence.

One of them will come out better. If Fury loses then people will question whether he's really back. I think he could survive it though given his boxing ability and age.

If Wilder gets shown up again then he'll just be the guy who relies on a haymaker connecting and gets outclassed at the top level. But for the fact that he'll likely have a rematch clause it would be game over for him.

The way I see it, Wilder has two more fights in him at the very top level (fight plus rematch) as I think the odds are that he loses both.

But he could connect with a big punch. If I were him I'd take on that gamble for all the belts. Not just one.

He seems to be afraid of the undisputed despite a rematch clause.
If he gets KOed twice by AJ, his career is over. I mean over.