Why didn't Tyson ever avenge Buster loss?

[TheGR8TESTOAT]

Good point. I would like to have seen Tyson vs. Holyfield prior to his prison stint though. He just wasn't quite the same after that in my opinion.

yeah bro I agree Tyson after prison was never the same.

interestingly Tyson himself has said that when he was a juvenile he was locked up and Ali came by to talk to all the kids locked up and meeting Ali inspired him to be a champ as he got older.

I never knew this until I saw it on some HBO documentary recently. Man HBO used to be the shat! Now they such garbage.

[Larry the boss]

guy retired after the douglass fight and came back 6 years later and fought no hopers...

[OCPancho]

They could have had the rematch before Douglas-Holyfield, but Don King tried to petition to have the fight declared a NC due to the long count, rather than just make the rematch.

I think that anyone who handled Tyson in the 90s was probably worried about how going into the rematch would affect Tyson psychologically, and went another direction.

Also, Douglas was no-one by the time Mike got out of prison. High risk low reward.

Wrong.
Tyson had a rematch clause.
Douglas did not honor it.
He paid off DKP to have a fight with Holy.
DK got millions from the Douglas-Holy fight for doing nothing.
DKP then made the Holy-Tyson deal later.
Tyson dropped out due to the **** case.
Holy fought Cooper instead and was nearly KO'd.

Douglas retired after the Holy fiasco where he showed up fat and gutless.
Douglas had his millions and was done .
He was a one-hit wonder.
Which is sad because he was really good when he got down to the 220's.

[Larry the boss]

Wrong.
Tyson had a rematch clause.
Douglas did not honor it.
He paid off DKP to have a fight with Holy.
DK got millions from the Douglas-Holy fight for doing nothing.
DKP then made the Holy-Tyson deal later.
Tyson dropped out due to the **** case.
Holy fought Cooper instead and was nearly KO'd.

Douglas retired after the Holy fiasco where he showed up fat and gutless.
Douglas had his millions and was done .
He was a one-hit wonder.
Which is sad because he was really good when he got down to the 220's.

he retired, but came back 6 years later

[Motorcity Cobra]

Here's a good article from '96 that pretty much accounts for why the rematch never happened in the 90s. I knew most of this, but not the coma part.





http://www.spokesman.com/stories/199...nking-rematch/

Good article. And that version of Douglass that night would've beat the best version of Tyson 9 times out of 10 for the reasons he stated in the article. A stylistic nightmare for Tyson

[BattlingNelson]

Wrong.
Tyson had a rematch clause.
Douglas did not honor it.
He paid off DKP to have a fight with Holy.
DK got millions from the Douglas-Holy fight for doing nothing.
DKP then made the Holy-Tyson deal later.
Tyson dropped out due to the **** case.
Holy fought Cooper instead and was nearly KO'd.

Douglas retired after the Holy fiasco where he showed up fat and gutless.
Douglas had his millions and was done .
He was a one-hit wonder.
Which is sad because he was really good when he got down to the 220's.

I don’t think there was a rematch clause. Do you have a source?

As I recall it, Douglas was a tuneup for Tyson before facing Holyfield. That fight was already signed and Holyfield, sitting ringside and commentating for British television, saw a fortune evaporate in the unlikeliest of fashions.

Douglas decided to give Holyfield a shot and got huge money from the mirage (Steve Wynn I think) for his (non)effort. That money was unrivaled until Wlad fought Povetkin in Russia a few years ago.

Douglas left in disgrace and ate himself out of the sport only to return for a few cameos way past his best.

[pittapatta66]

Tyson was shook that the era of 80s phonies was finished and the real men came onto the scene.

[paulf]

I don’t think there was a rematch clause. Do you have a source?

As I recall it, Douglas was a tuneup for Tyson before facing Holyfield. That fight was already signed and Holyfield, sitting ringside and commentating for British television, saw a fortune evaporate in the unlikeliest of fashions.

Douglas decided to give Holyfield a shot and got huge money from the mirage (Steve Wynn I think) for his (non)effort. That money was unrivaled until Wlad fought Povetkin in Russia a few years ago.

Douglas left in disgrace and ate himself out of the sport only to return for a few cameos way past his best.

This is correct as far as I remember. No rematch clause, but Douglas did buy himself out from Don King, and in effect bought himself into retirement after he embarrassed himself against Holyfield. He had no promoter and King wasn't going to give him another shot at upsetting his cash cow a second time for no reason.

[atomicsad]

Don't think Tyson wanted any more of that.

[OCPancho]

I don’t think there was a rematch clause. Do you have a source?

As I recall it, Douglas was a tuneup for Tyson before facing Holyfield. That fight was already signed and Holyfield, sitting ringside and commentating for British television, saw a fortune evaporate in the unlikeliest of fashions.

Douglas decided to give Holyfield a shot and got huge money from the mirage (Steve Wynn I think) for his (non)effort. That money was unrivaled until Wlad fought Povetkin in Russia a few years ago.

Douglas left in disgrace and ate himself out of the sport only to return for a few cameos way past his best.

Ok. No rematch clause but DK was going to rematch them. Tyson had no say in the matter. He wanted Douglas again.

https://www.nytimes.com/1990/07/18/s...ettlement.html

Buster got KO'd and that was the end of that .