Why didn't Tyson ever avenge Buster loss?

[TheGR8TESTOAT]

Why didnt Tyson ever avenge the Buster loss?

Yeah I know Buster loss the titles with the quickness to Holy, but to this day everyone ONLY talks about Tyson's loss to Buster over any other fighter.

Buster also fought on for another 10 years undefeated after the Holy loss too.

[Boxing Goat]

Why didnt Tyson ever avenge the Buster loss?

Yeah I know Buster loss the titles with the quickness to Holy, but to this day everyone ONLY talks about Tyson's loss to Buster over any other fighter.

Buster also fought on for another 10 years undefeated after the Holy loss too.

Because Holyfield starched Buster in his next fight.

[paulf]

They could have had the rematch before Douglas-Holyfield, but Don King tried to petition to have the fight declared a NC due to the long count, rather than just make the rematch.

I think that anyone who handled Tyson in the 90s was probably worried about how going into the rematch would affect Tyson psychologically, and went another direction.

Also, Douglas was no-one by the time Mike got out of prison. High risk low reward.

[TheGR8TESTOAT]

Because Holyfield starched Buster in his next fight.

I know I just said that, but now in hindsight the only LOSS that anyone ever talks about for Tyson is the Buster loss, so he should have just avenged the loss bro.

Even more so if Buster got KO with the quickness Tyson would have had the upper edge right after the Holy fight.

[TheGR8TESTOAT]

They could have had the rematch before Douglas-Holyfield, but Don King tried to petition to have the fight declared a NC due to the long count, rather than just make the rematch.

oh yeah I remember that too!

[paulf]

Here's a good article from '96 that pretty much accounts for why the rematch never happened in the 90s. I knew most of this, but not the coma part.

James “Buster” Douglas is asked if he’d like to fight Mike Tyson again and he says sure, why not.

“Not for the money,” Douglas explained. “I’d want to do it to prove the first time wasn’t a fluke.”

It has been nearly 6-1/2 years since that charmed day in Tokyo when Douglas, a 42-1 underdog, shocked the boxing world by handing the seemingly invincible Tyson the only defeat of his professional career on a 10th-round knockout.

“I had watched Mike a lot,” Douglas said. “I was on the undercard of several of his title defenses. I knew he was a great champion, but I was also very confident in my own abilities. I always thought that if I got the opportunity, I could show him some things he hadn’t seen before.

“I have a good jab and move pretty well for a big guy. Tyson has some problems with tall men who have a good left hand and move around well. That’s no secret.

“But knowing what to do and being able to do it aren’t the same thing. Now it’s like, execute the James Douglas fight plan and you, too, will beat Mike Tyson. There’s more to it than that.”

To some, Douglas’s words ring empty these days. His upset of Tyson earned him a $24.1 million payday in his next fight, an image-deflating, third-round knockout loss to Evander Holyfield. Douglas took his plunder and retreated into comfortable, if unhealthy, retirement in Marco Island, Fla. His weight shot up to 350 pounds and he was hospitalized after slipping into a diabetic coma.

“When I came out of the coma, all the doctors told me I had to lose weight,” Douglas said. “The best way I knew how to do that was to go back in the gym. As the weight started to come off, the idea came to me that maybe I could fight again.”

So here Douglas is, 36 years of age and hardly svelte at 255 or so pounds, ready to launch an improbable comeback on the undercard of Saturday’s pay-per-view show at the Trump Taj Mahal in Atlantic City headlined by another pair of fading warriors, middleweights Roberto Duran (97-11, 67 KOs) and Hector “Macho” Camacho (58-3-1, 28 KOs).

It remains to be seen whether Douglas (30-5-1, 20 KOs), who takes on journeyman Tony La Rosa (24-5, 16 KOs), is returning as a novelty act or as a legitimate contender.

“There are five or six fighters who could give Tyson a real fight,” Douglas said. “And I would have to include myself in that group, of course.

“Tyson definitely is the man again, but if we fought, a second fight would end the same way the first one did. If there is such a thing as a James Douglas fight plan for Tyson, there isn’t anyone who can execute it better than James Douglas.”

Dial-a-champ?

Russian-born Alex Zolkin (24-2, 15 KOs) and Henry Akinwande (29-0-1, 17 KOs), an Englishman of Nigerian descent, square off June 29 in Indio Springs, Calif., for the World Boxing Organization heavyweight title recently relinquished by Rid**** Bowe.

Italy’s Francesco Damiani became the Puerto Rico-based sanctioning body’s first heavyweight king by stopping Johnny Du Plooy in three rounds on May 6, 1989. Three of the WBO’s six succeeding champs Ray Mercer, Moorer and Bowe - either vacated the title voluntarily or were stripped of it.

Lonesome glove

Former heavyweight champion Michael Moorer (36-1, 30 KOs) can’t expect much crowd support when he takes on Germany’s Axel Schulz (21-3-1, 10 KOs) for the vacant International Boxing Federation heavyweight title Saturday in Dortmund, Germany.

“He’s going to be fighting a German in Germany in a 60,000-seat outdoor stadium,” said Moorer’s trainer, Teddy Atlas. “I think Michael is the better fighter, but to prove that, he has to be able to block out all the distractions.”

Wanted: Piece of the rock

Former heavyweight champ Larry Holmes (65-5, 42 KOs) closed out his distinguished career last Sunday with an eighth-round knockout of Anthony Willis (15-5, 11 KOs).

He leaves with only one regret - a Sept. 21, 1985, loss to Michael Spinks that prevented Holmes from matching Rocky Marciano’s 49-0 career mark and ended his 7-1/2-year title reign.

“My greatest disappointment was when I didn’t beat Michael for that record,” Holmes said. “I didn’t even know anything about the record until the media brought it up, but once I knew about it, I wanted it.”

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/1996/jun/20/douglas-thinking-rematch/

[Boxing Goat]

I know I just said that, but now in hindsight the only LOSS that anyone ever talks about for Tyson is the Buster loss, so he should have just avenged the loss bro.

Even more so if Buster got KO with the quickness Tyson would have had the upper edge right after the Holy fight.

Tyson wasn't going to rematch him directly after getting KTFO. He needed tuneups. Then when the fight made sense again, Douglas was already a has been. But as you said, I would like to have seen Iron Mike avenge that loss as well.

P.S. Tyson's attempt to avenge the Holyfield loss turned out to be a disaster.

[TheGR8TESTOAT]

Here's a good article from '96 that pretty much accounts for why the rematch never happened in the 90s. I knew most of this, but not the coma part.





http://www.spokesman.com/stories/199...nking-rematch/

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to paulf again.

Damn bro great article and even better you highlighted the key points!

Man if I had 25million I'd retire too but id hike or at least jog every day not to balloon up to 350lbs and wtf diabetic coma???

My chick usually keeps me in check if I put on too much weight she throws a fit. I usually put on a ton of weight cuz at all off our business meetings they have open bar and buffet basically for us so I'm eating ton of good food and drinking all week trying to close deals.

[TheGR8TESTOAT]

Tyson wasn't going to rematch him directly after getting KTFO. He needed tuneups. Then when the fight made sense again, Douglas was already a has been. But as you said, I would like to have seen Iron Mike avenge that loss as well.

P.S. Tyson's attempt to avenge the Holyfield loss turned out to be a disaster.

Yeah bro Holy was all wrong for Tyson. Holy could move or stand toe to toe and ****. Plus Holy was a dirty fighter who usually got the the refs on his side kind of like how B-Hop always fouled but never got caught lol.

Most of all Holy was never scared of Tyson when pretty much all of his other opponents were taking L's before the opening bell.

[Boxing Goat]

Yeah bro Holy was all wrong for Tyson. Holy could move or stand toe to toe and ****. Plus Holy was a dirty fighter who usually got the the refs on his side kind of like how B-Hop always fouled but never got caught lol.

Most of all Holy was never scared of Tyson when pretty much all of his other opponents were taking L's before the opening bell.

Good point. I would like to have seen Tyson vs. Holyfield prior to his prison stint though. He just wasn't quite the same after that in my opinion.