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  • EasternEuroFan
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    #161
    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
    You could have fooled me. You're defending Wilder while Slaying Joshua. Go back and read this thread.
    Yeah because Wilder has tried to make the AJ fight. AJ asked for $50m and then he got offered it. If he stuck to his word, the fight would have been made.

    I'll never say Wilder has a great resume, but he tried to give AJ what he wanted and make the fight. I give him credit for that.

    If we're comparing resume, then AJ has a better one than Wilder but it's not about that. We're talking about them fighting each other and AJ doesn't want it.

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    • Sid-Knee
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      #162
      Originally posted by OldTerry
      Ignore SidKnee, he's obviously a troll.
      But the guy you quoted isn't? That's the deranged madness i'm talking about.

      And no, i'm not trolling anything. I'm the one talking sense here. But continue to be oblivious to it all like you are doing. I'll just see you as being as bad as they are.

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        #163
        Originally posted by Sid-Knee
        But the guy you quoted isn't? That's the deranged madness i'm talking about.

        And no, i'm not trolling anything. I'm the one talking sense here. But continue to be oblivious to it all like you are doing. I'll just see you as being as bad as they are.
        Talking sense?

        You went in a rage and accused me of being racist in another thread (which i replied to), just because i don't support AJ.

        Funny that you assumed i must be racist for being against AJ while also saying i'm defending Wilder. How would that work?

        Lol talking sense..

        Only a weak person starts dragging a debate down into race talk because they can't handle the back and forth.

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          #164
          Originally posted by EasternEuroFan
          Yeah because Wilder has tried to make the AJ fight. AJ asked for $50m and then he got offered it. If he stuck to his word, the fight would have been made.

          I'll never say Wilder has a great resume, but he tried to give AJ what he wanted and make the fight. I give him credit for that.

          If we're comparing resume, then AJ has a better one than Wilder but it's not about that. We're talking about them fighting each other and AJ doesn't want it.
          The talk was about having the fight in the UK. Finkle thought it was worth 100 Mill, Hearn said it was nonsense. So Finkle sent an offer for 50 Mill. But guess what, the fight was to be in the US, even though Joshua said the fight was to happen in the UK. Then they wouldn't let Hearn look at the contract, they said he had to accept before seeing it. You don't see the red flag here? Any lawyer would laugh at doing business in this way. And when they found out what exactly was in the contract, they found out a lot of the money was to be put up by BT Sport, even though Joshua couldn't fight on their platform due to having a contract with Sky Sports. So it was all bollocks. The fact you still go on about it is preposterous.

          But after reading your posts, it's clear you're never going to see it Joshua's way no matter what. You have a problem, that much is clear.

          You give Wilder credit for a bogus contract? What else do you give him credit for? Fighting old men and a shot looking Fury? Ha. You're a hypocrite, man. Plain and simple.

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            #165
            Originally posted by Sid-Knee
            The talk was about having the fight in the UK. Finkle thought it was worth 100 Mill, Hearn said it was nonsense. So Finkle sent an offer for 50 Mill. But guess what, the fight was to be in the US, even though Joshua said the fight was to happen in the UK. Then they wouldn't let Hearn look at the contract, they said he had to accept before seeing it. You don't see the red flag here? Any lawyer would laugh at doing business in this way. And when they found out what exactly was in the contract, they found out a lot of the money was to be put up by BT Sport, even though Joshua couldn't fight on their platform due to having a contract with Sky Sports. So it was all bollocks. The fact you still go on about it is preposterous.

            But after reading your posts, it's clear you're never going to see it Joshua's way no matter what. You have a problem, that much is clear.

            You give Wilder credit for a bogus contract? What else do you give him credit for? Fighting old men and a shot looking Fury? Ha. You're a hypocrite, man. Plain and simple.

            But the flat fee offer Hearn sent was only the same kinda thing. To own Wilder for the fight. Wilder also has his own commitments and contracts, like AJ. So you have to agree that is also a bull**** offer too. Hearn's flat fee was no more plausible than Wilder's in terms of it being able to work, regardless of the amount.

            The difference is that AJ asked for it then refused the offer, Wilder didn't ask for some specific figure, he just wanted to negotiate a fight properly.

            You say Hearn offered 35%, but there's been no talk of that. You made it up.

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              #166
              Originally posted by EasternEuroFan
              Talking sense?

              You went in a rage and accused me of being racist in another thread (which i replied to), just because i don't support AJ.

              Funny that you assumed i must be racist for being against AJ while also saying i'm defending Wilder. How would that work?

              Lol talking sense..

              Only a weak person starts dragging a debate down into race talk because they can't handle the back and forth.
              Well there's some reason why you constantly twist things against Joshua. You don't just do it to the levels you have without there being a problem. Either that or you're crazy. But I genuinely don't think you're crazy. So what is it? It's definitely something. At least have the guts to say why you always see it in a negative way when it comes to AJ?

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                #167
                Originally posted by EasternEuroFan
                But the flat fee offer Hearn sent was only the same kinda thing. To own Wilder for the fight. Wilder also has his own commitments and contracts, like AJ. So you have to agree that is also a bull**** offer too. Hearn's flat fee was no more plausible than Wilder's in terms of it being able to work, regardless of the amount.

                You say Hearn offered 35%, but there's been no talk of that. You made it up.
                Wilder has no contracts. It's common knowledge he's free to fight wherever he wants, just as long as Haymon is fine with it. And that 15 Mill was more than he earned against Fury. But you had no problem in him fighting for that much. So why is it now a problem? Do you want the fight or not?

                The money has supposedly gone up to 28 Mill. But i'm waiting to see if this is confirmed.

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                  #168
                  Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                  Well there's some reason why you constantly twist things against Joshua. You don't just do it to the levels you have without there being a problem. Either that or you're crazy. But I genuinely don't think you're crazy. So what is it? It's definitely something. At least have the guts to say why you always see it in a negative way when it comes to AJ?
                  When have i always been negative about him?

                  I've said many times that i think AJ has a pretty decent resume for the amount of fights he has and he's done well to gain all that popularity too. I also think he's a good fighter. I don't think he's as good as Fury if they're at their best, but that's my opinion that i feel will be proven right if they fight.

                  I've never been negative about him, i've only ever pointed out facts. If you think that's negative, it's because you don't like the facts/truth and that isn't my problem.

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                    #169
                    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                    Wilder has no contracts. It's common knowledge he's free to fight wherever he wants, just as long as Haymon is fine with it. And that 15 Mill was more than he earned against Fury. But you had no problem in him fighting for that much. So why is it now a problem? Do you want the fight or not?

                    The money has supposedly gone up to 28 Mill. But i'm waiting to see if this is confirmed.
                    At the end of the day, you're just an AJ fanboy, so you're never going to hear anything "negative" said about him and that's ok.

                    If it hurts you that AJ is becoming a forgotten man and Fury is the nations sweetheart now, then get used to it.

                    Fury is no.1 heavyweight and a national treasure. He is respected and adored in the same ways as Princess Diana, Dame Judy Dench and Stephen Fry.

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                      #170
                      Originally posted by EasternEuroFan
                      When have i always been negative about him?

                      I've said many times that i think AJ has a pretty decent resume for the amount of fights he has and he's done well to gain all that popularity too. I also think he's a good fighter. I don't think he's as good as Fury if they're at their best, but that's my opinion that i feel will be proven right if they fight.

                      I've never been negative about him, i've only ever pointed out facts. If you think that's negative, it's because you don't like the facts/truth and that isn't my problem.
                      Joshua fights old men and leftovers according to you? He's harmed more old people than Harold Shipman. That's his legacy. But now you're saying he has a pretty good resume? Even though you've done nothing but trash it?

                      Wilder doesn't come into stick for fighting Ortiz or a Fury coming off obesity and drug abuse? Oh right.

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