Comments Thread For: Wilder: Joshua Skipped Fury Fight To Avoid 'Hard Questions'

[Sid-Knee]

At the end of the day, you're just an AJ fanboy, so you're never going to hear anything "negative" said about him and that's ok.

If it hurts you that AJ is becoming a forgotten man and Fury is the nations sweetheart now, then get used to it.

Fury is no.1 heavyweight and a national treasure. He is respected and adored in the same ways as Princess Diana, Dame Judy Dench and Stephen Fry.

When are you going to get back to your 1Hourrun account? Don't you think it's been too long with not making any posts on there?

[davefromvancouv]

So Fury wasn't booed in Belfast then? Wilder wasn't booed in the first 6 rounds against Ortiz? Try watching those fights to see who's getting second hand information and who's talking cold hard facts. And Wilder has never sold out once in 41 fights. Fury, before his couple of comeback fights, also never sold out. When the tickets for the Wlad rematch went on sale, even that barley sold. Fury doesn't have the style to bring in the punters. He's far too boring.

Joshua would make more fighting Wilder and Fury, yes. But not much more. When you factor in the big payday they will want, it stands to reason that there won't much more than he's getting now. You're deluded if you think the fights make 100 Mill or so. It won't reach that level, regardless of the morons saying otherwise.

That's why the flat fee given to Wilder last summer was such a letdown and proved to most boxing fans that Joshua wanted no part of Wilder in September. That's why most boxing fans were ecstatic about the $50 million against 50% guarantee and believed the fight was really going to happen. It was an offer that went above what Joshua asked for. A percentage takes the total revenue out of the equation and ensures that the extra revenue doesn't go to the promoter (i.e. Matchroom).

But no...

Joshua fans like yourself say whatever you can to discredit Wilder and Fury and insist Joshua is being upfront and serious about fighting Wilder. Half empty arenas, boring fighters, Fury wasn't hit that hard, Wilder can't sell, etc.

It's not working. So you focus on the first four rounds of the Ortiz fight and exaggerate that it was six. It was a great dramatic and conclusive fight. Then you say Fury was booed in Belfast. He was also celebrated and he is a master class boxer that will be favored to beat Joshua.

Wilder makes a Fury fight an exciting fight. Fury makes a Wilder fight a suspenseful fight. Wilder-Fury exceeded expectations and most boxing fans and the majority of the sporting world no longer care about how much Joshua makes. Wilder and Fury have captured our imaginations and Joshua is a forgotten belt holder. To get back into the mix, he HAS to put aside his ego and stop playing games. Even parity, 50/50, or stay on the sidelines....

[Sid-Knee]

That's why the flat fee given to Wilder last summer was such a letdown and proved to most boxing fans that Joshua wanted no part of Wilder in September. That's why most boxing fans were ecstatic about the $50 million against 50% guarantee and believed the fight was really going to happen. It was an offer that went above what Joshua asked for. A percentage takes the total revenue out of the equation and ensures that the extra revenue doesn't go to the promoter (i.e. Matchroom).

But no...

Joshua fans like yourself say whatever you can to discredit Wilder and Fury and insist Joshua is being upfront and serious about fighting Wilder. Half empty arenas, boring fighters, Fury wasn't hit that hard, Wilder can't sell, etc.

It's not working. So you focus on the first four rounds of the Ortiz fight and exaggerate that it was six. It was a great dramatic and conclusive fight. Then you say Fury was booed in Belfast. He was also celebrated and he is a master class boxer that will be favored to beat Joshua.

Wilder makes a Fury fight an exciting fight. Fury makes a Wilder fight a suspenseful fight. Wilder-Fury exceeded expectations and most boxing fans and the majority of the sporting world no longer care about how much Joshua makes. Wilder and Fury have captured our imaginations and Joshua is a forgotten belt holder. To get back into the mix, he HAS to put aside his ego and stop playing games. Even parity, 50/50, or stay on the sidelines....

Excited about a bogus contract that was nothing but a fake to try and get the public on side? Yeah, it's been proven to be a load of ****. But people like you still go on about it like it was legit. Haha.

Nothing I said was a lie. All true whether you like it or not.

Keep on believing that Wilder is worth 50% if you want, but it's all madness. He isn't even close. When the Fury fights are done, he's going back to normal Showtime for 2-3 Mill. If they put his bum fights on PPV, they will fail.

But it doesn't matter anyway. Fury will beat Wilder in the rematch and then fight AJ at Wembley for the undisputed title. Wilder will crawl back into his hole as the non entity he always has been, and always will be.

[EasternEuroFan]

Joshua fights old men and leftovers according to you? He's harmed more old people than Harold Shipman. That's his legacy. But now you're saying he has a pretty good resume? Even though you've done nothing but trash it?

Wilder doesn't come into stick for fighting Ortiz or a Fury coming off obesity and drug abuse? Oh right.

That's all true, but for the amount of fights he's had, there's still some fairly decent names on there. And his best win IS a Fury leftover, that's a fact.

He wants no part of Wilder or Fury.

I've never praised Wilder for his resume or Ortiz. I've always said Ortiz is overrated but at the end of the day, Fury, Wilder and AJ were considered top 3 and two of them are willing to fight each other and one of them isn't. That's the top and bottom of it.

That's why Fury has taken over AJ in the UK. That's why Joshua is old news, like Pogs, he was a fad. Fury has cemented his place firmly into British culture as an icon, revered alongside names such as Sir Trevor Macdonald and Sue Barker.

[BeLikeWater]

Because he can't take 50%, ******. He's not worth that. If Wilder doesn't take the fight with Joshua, he'll go right back to peanuts when the Fury fights are over. There you'll see Wilder's true worth. You'll also see he still can't sell out an arena. Never has, never will.

So 15 mil guarantee and 50% of revs vs Tyson is peanuts now... I don't know what cave you've been hiding in lately but at this point not only does wilder not need AJ but the world doesn't seem to care what AJ does next with his dollar store belts..

[Sid-Knee]

That's all true, but for the amount of fights he's had, there's still some fairly decent names on there. And his best win IS a Fury leftover, that's a fact.

He wants no part of Wilder or Fury.

I've never praised Wilder for his resume or Ortiz. I've always said Ortiz is overrated but at the end of the day, Fury, Wilder and AJ were considered top 3 and two of them are willing to fight each other and one of them isn't. That's the top and bottom of it.

That's why Fury has taken over AJ in the UK. That's why Joshua is old news, like Pogs, he was a fad. Fury has cemented his place firmly into British culture as an icon, revered alongside names such as Sir Trevor Macdonald and Sue Barker.

So anyone who has a loss is just someone to be disrespected and called someone's leftover? Fury is nothing but McDermots left over then. Tommy Hearns fighting Leonard? Just Duran's left over? Lewis fighting Holyfield? Just Bowes left over? Is that how you view the sport? Sad.

You've trashed Joshua and his resume at every turn. Why can't you just be honest and tell me why you hate him? Are you scared you'll get chucked off here or something?

Fury will never take over AJ in the UK. And the fact you think he has after getting a round of applause, even though Joshua would get the same if he were there, is nothing but ******ity. But you don't really believe this nonsense, your desperation is nothing more than what you hope is the case even though you've got nothing to back this **** up with.

AJ has been getting love right from the get go when he turned pro in 2013. That's 5 years. His numbers from fight to fight prove this. Fury has been a pro for much longer yet never got this kind of support. So it's kind of ironic you talking about fads because Fury has only just started getting some attention. That's a fad if anything. But with him not fighting a big threat in Wilder or Joshua, he'll be seen in the cold light of day again and be seen as the bore he clearly is. When the danger aspect is removed, they'll be no tension. All people will see is someone moving non stop throwing 5 punches a round and only landing 2. People will not pay for him on PPV. People will not buy tickets. But continue in your fantasy if you must. It seems to make you happy for reasons you're not telling me.

How was Fury considered top 3 when he was only 7th in the rankings? I thought you were all about the truth and facts? Not opinions?

Joshua is trying to fight Wilder but he's not interested. What else can he do?

[EasternEuroFan]

So anyone who has a loss is just someone to be disrespected and called someone's leftover? Fury is nothing but McDermots left over then. Tommy Hearns fighting Leonard? Just Duran's left over? Lewis fighting Holyfield? Just Bowes left over? Is that how you view the sport? Sad.

You've trashed Joshua and his resume at every turn. Why can't you just be honest and tell me why you hate him? Are you scared you'll get chucked off here or something?

Fury will never take over AJ in the UK. And the fact you think he has after getting a round of applause, even though Joshua would get the same if he were there, is nothing but ******ity. But you don't really believe this nonsense, your desperation is nothing more than what you hope is the case even though you've got nothing to back this **** up with.

AJ has been getting love right from the get go when he turned pro in 2013. That's 5 years. His numbers from fight to fight prove this. Fury has been a pro for much longer yet never got this kind of support. So it's kind of ironic you talking about fads because Fury has only just started getting some attention. That's a fad if anything. But with him not fighting a big threat in Wilder or Joshua, he'll be seen in the cold light of day again and be seen as the bore he clearly is. When the danger aspect is removed, they'll be no tension. All people will see is someone moving non stop throwing 5 punches a round and only landing 2. People will not pay for him on PPV. People will not buy tickets. But continue in your fantasy if you must. It seems to make you happy for reasons you're not telling me.

How was Fury considered top 3 when he was only 7th in the rankings? I thought you were all about the truth and facts? Not opinions?

Joshua is trying to fight Wilder but he's not interested. What else can he do?

I don't hate AJ at all. He's been good for British boxing in recent years in terms of getting people interested. I quite like the guy, he's a bit boring and fake to the media but 99% of people in the public eye are, so i won't hold that against him.

I simply think he, or at least his team are happy to milk the fact they can make millions fighting lesser opposition, so they don't want to make fights with the opponents that pose the biggest threat. As a boxing fan, i find that disappointing because i want to see the best fight the best. The fact that i'm disappointed is because i actually rate Joshua. If i thought he was average, i wouldn't care about who he fights.

If he's the no.1 like his fans say, he certainly has a funny way of showing it if he isn't willing to prove it in the ring.

I know you're a big AJ fanboy and will defend his honour until you're blue in the face and purple in the ****, but you must understand that it isn't a personal thing for me. I have nothing against him as a guy or anything. I'm just a boxing fan that is disappointed that after all the build up and hype in his career, it's come down to him avoiding the best fights.

[Sid-Knee]

So 15 mil guarantee and 50% of revs vs Tyson is peanuts now... I don't know what cave you've been hiding in lately but at this point not only does wilder not need AJ but the world doesn't seem to care what AJ does next with his dollar store belts..

Wilder was guaranteed only 4 Million. Not 15. He didn't even make that amount of money. Go and do the maths yourself to see it's nonsense. But they need to be seen to be making that kind of money in their war against Joshua. Honest people see right through it though.

Those 3 belts are legit world titles. Wilder's belt was nothing but a phony plastic belt being defended against complete bums for 4 years. He's disgraced that belt even more than it already was. But he's even more of a phony champ now when he was beaten by Fury. He shouldn't even have the belt but corruption saw to it that the chump gets to keep his piece of plastic.

We'll be done with Wilder soon. You're going to have to find another fake hero. Maybe Miller? Oh no, wait. He actually might get the Joshua fight so he'll be getting the beating Wilder would have if he had the courage to take it. But he doesn't. Not to worry, Fury will deal with him. Then we can forget about this hypejob fraud and laugh at his worthless resume of garbage. Wilder won't even be a footnote in history. Haha.

[BeLikeWater]

Wilder was guaranteed only 4 Million. Not 15. He didn't even make that amount of money. Go and do the maths yourself to see it's nonsense. But they need to be seen to be making that kind of money in their war against Joshua. Honest people see right through it though.

Those 3 belts are legit world titles. Wilder's belt was nothing but a phony plastic belt being defended against complete bums for 4 years. He's disgraced that belt even more than it already was. But he's even more of a phony champ now when he was beaten by Fury. He shouldn't even have the belt but corruption saw to it that the chump gets to keep his piece of plastic.

We'll be done with Wilder soon. You're going to have to find another fake hero. Maybe Miller? Oh no, wait. He actually might get the Joshua fight so he'll be getting the beating Wilder would have if he had the courage to take it. But he doesn't. Not to worry, Fury will deal with him. Then we can forget about this hypejob fraud and laugh at his worthless resume of garbage. Wilder won't even be a footnote in history. Haha.

You're so butthurt

[Sid-Knee]

I don't hate AJ at all. He's been good for British boxing in recent years in terms of getting people interested. I quite like the guy, he's a bit boring and fake to the media but 99% of people in the public eye are, so i won't hold that against him.

I simply think he, or at least his team are happy to milk the fact they can make millions fighting lesser opposition, so they don't want to make fights with the opponents that pose the biggest threat. As a boxing fan, i find that disappointing because i want to see the best fight the best. The fact that i'm disappointed is because i actually rate Joshua. If i thought he was average, i wouldn't care about who he fights.

If he's the no.1 like his fans say, he certainly has a funny way of showing it if he isn't willing to prove it in the ring.

I know you're a big AJ fanboy and will defend his honour until you're blue in the face and purple in the ****, but you must understand that it isn't a personal thing for me. I have nothing against him as a guy or anything. I'm just a boxing fan that is disappointed that after all the build up and hype in his career, it's come down to him avoiding the best fights.

After what you've said about him, this is nothing but a load of ****. Don't pretend you like him, you clearly don't.

And I asked you what he's supposed to do to get Wilder into the ring? They're throwing money at him. What else can they do? AJ has made it clear in plain English that he wants the fight next. But he can't force Wilder to fight.